[Dominick]

Man is not the "primary route" the Church must travel. Man must follow the Church which follows Christ. JPII has got it exactly backwards!

We wish to look towards him-because there is salvation in no one else but him, the Son of God-

I dont see the word primary route. He never said it.

[ultima ratio]

Sure he said it.

"THIS MAN IS THE PRIMARY ROUTE THAT THE CHURCH MUST TRAVEL in fulfilling her mission..."

"This man", meaning Mankind, not Christ. The way traced out is through our humanity in all its aspects, according to JPII. That is not the traditional teaching of the Church. The Church is not leading here, it is following!

[ultima ratio]

Once again, let me ask you, if the Church follows man and not the other way around, and if all men are connected to Christ at birth whether they know it or not, then why do we have to belong to the Church? What did Jesus mean when he said that unless we were baptized with water and the Holy Spirit we could not be saved? How does this encyclical do anything but make the Catholic doctrine of redemption ultimately unnecessary? And where does Original Sin fit in all of this? Inquiring minds want to know--especially if they're traditionalist.