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To: TheTruthess

"If the Pope decided tomorrow that homosexuality and abortion was fine, would Catholics accept it as truth from God?"

Most conservative Catholics would accept the Pope's word. Traditionalists would not--since they do not make the Pope a god, but consider him the servant of Tradition. Something like this has already happened. For two thousand years the Catholic Church has taught that capital punishment is morally appropriate as a punishment for grave criminal offenses like murder or treason. Only JPII has a different perspective--and has used doublespeak to push it. Now Catholics are following his lead--rationalizing his perspective which is in direct contradiction with Catholic Tradition going back to the apostles. The new catechism even argues the Pope's perspective as if it were the traditional position of the Church. It isn't.


366 posted on 02/23/2005 10:04:44 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
Most conservative Catholics would accept the Pope's word. Traditionalists would not--since they do not make the Pope a god, but consider him the servant of Tradition. Something like this has already happened.

Traditional Catholics understand the Pope may choose who is in the Church, who is a Bishop, and the order of the Rites. Are you saying you left the SSPX and rejoined?

For two thousand years the Catholic Church has taught that capital punishment is morally appropriate as a punishment for grave criminal offenses like murder or treason. Only JPII has a different perspective--and has used doublespeak to push it.

The Church holds that Capital Punishment has a place, but the discussion is not and never has been stated ex cathedra, you should know that. The Church' perspective on capital punishment is congruent with the position the Church has in other areas.

The nature of the Integrist heresy is elevating everything in the Church to a crisis, fixing a snazzy headline to it, and putting it in a tabloid paper. Straw man arguments seem to be the rule.
372 posted on 02/24/2005 3:06:17 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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