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To: ultima ratio

Well there is not point in debating with you because you won't listen. I told you before that faithful Catholics know the Church is in trouble and know that there have been many dubious things done by the Vatican. The Pope has been far from perfect, but by selectively only repeating his actions which you disagree on (and I may too) and leaving out all the other ones you are slandering the Holy Father. I would not like to have that sin on my soul when I die!

You are spreading scandal because the people that read these posts (most of them at least) will become hostile to entering the Church or will think about leaving the Church if they read posts like yours.

By the way, I didn't see you over at the thread today where the Pope condemned the errors of democracy. Maybe you just missed it though. Anyways, the Pope does many great things too.


319 posted on 02/23/2005 1:49:19 PM PST by ndkos
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To: ndkos

Listen, the Pope is the supreme legislator in the Church. If he is not strongly Catholic--what hope is there for the rest of the Church? Do you think the systemic collapse of the Church in its liturgy and culture and doctrinal and moral integrity in the past forty years has been accidental and has not been the result of a purposeful agenda set at the very top? That seems highly unlikely. It is not slanderous to point this out--it is necessary. The Pope disdains Catholic Tradition. That is a calamity for all of us.


324 posted on 02/23/2005 2:15:06 PM PST by ultima ratio
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