Posted on 02/22/2005 10:08:36 AM PST by TexKat
Bingo
More discussion to come... :~\
Ever since the late 60s to early 70s, guys have just assumed that if you sleep around, you take the pill. And you are right, they think if that pill doesn't do the trick then abortions would do the trick. What I am saying is they (men) feel that with all the options, it would be the females decision whether to get pregnant or not. And then there is the condom, which anyone not in a committed relationship should not ignore due to AIDs.
I knew this girl that had her eye on this special man and wanted to get married to him. She tried very hard to get pregnant by him, and of course - she didn't know he had had a vasectomy. She even considered getting in vitero with another man's sperm to try and catch the prize. Some ladies are quite the calculating sort. I never found out if she did or didn't get her prize since I moved out of town.
Myself, I took the pill from age 18 to age 40, no children resulting, but that is what I wanted. It was not hard to plan it or get those results. I guess this is why I feel that those that get preggers have more in the know than the guy does. The guy does not feed her that pill every day, she does.
Honestly, most men do assume that the female has some sort of protection. (See Seinfeld "the spongeworthy" episode)
Maybe Barbee wasn't spongeworthy?
You do raise some good points. I have 5 kids. I got pregnant when I wanted to and didn't when I didn't want to. I don't want to now and chances are 99.9 percent that I won't and I have not had my tubes tied, nor has my husband had a vasectomy. At age 43, married 22 years, I know what works and what doesn't.
1 accidental pregnancy is understandable. 2 is suspect.
Thank you back. And thanks for the nice response.
"It's not child support that's the cause it's greed and selfishnish. It's evil. The love of money is the root of evil. This man wanted to have his fun but did not want to be responsible for the results."
Actually, the whole thing happened because people don't have Christian morals anymore.
What was this woman doing dating, and sleeping with, a man she's not married to? ESPECIALLY one that was already married, making her an adulterer.
Some may think my words are harsh, but God gave us Biblical laws on sex, marriage and adultery because He KNEW that was the only way to enforce peace and love on His people. Any other way: sleeping with someone you're not married to; sleeping with someone ALREADY married to another; etc., will inevitably result in pain, suffering and tragedy, whether the pain of divorce and shattered families, or the hell of having a married boyfriend who is evil, and murders you and your unborn child...
Ed
Right on...I totally agree with you!
Follow God's laws on sex and marriage, and you're virtually assured that you'll be blessed.
Ed
You are spot-on in what you are saying, yellow-dog hunter!
Ed
We needed you and your clear headed wisdom earlier. Yellowdog was taking a serious beating for her high moral standards.
"Follow God's laws on sex and marriage, and you're virtually assured that you'll be blessed."
Those words are so simple yet so true.
Thank you Sir, I appreciate that. When it comes to protecting children I do not care who thinks I am mean, cold-hearted, etc.... they will get over their feelings.
Once again, thank you.
I have a teenage daughter who will be going off to college in a few years. Teenagers have been told about morality and the necessity for making good choices, but they don't always realize the real-world consequences of making a series of truly bad choices. Nothing is a guarantee, and horrible things happen to people who have tried to do everything right. But, as I said before, there are ways of minimizing the odds -- and there are ways of increasing the odds of tragedy. Those of us with daughters look at this and hope to keep our children safe by trying to see what could have been done differently.
Given of course that the facts we're seeing are accurate (which may be a big "if" given the source), why on earth would this poor lady think the perp wasn't good enough to meet her son, but he was good enough to father her child? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Excellent points.
Makes perfect sense to me.
"Given of course that the facts we're seeing are accurate (which may be a big "if" given the source), why on earth would this poor lady think the perp wasn't good enough to meet her son, but he was good enough to father her child? That makes no sense whatsoever."
That information didn't come from the perp, it came from the lady's neighbors.
Makes me wonder if the murderer knew about her little boy.
This just doesn't make sense to me.
"...a grand-daughter to my Dad's lady friend was the 16 year old driver in a fatal head on collision."
Curiosity gets the better of me, and I have to ask, was it just an accident? Were there drugs/booze involved?
Laura Bush was the driver in a collision that killed another driver, quite by coincidence, he was her boyfriend, if I remembering this correctly.
Sometimes stuff just happens and yes, in those cases even the "perpetrator" is a victim too. A victim of fate, I mean.
She had been carousing all night, Her folks were away.... daddy's rig... but she was on her way to school... She's plenty culpable.
"She's plenty culpable."
Yep, I hear you.
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