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To: Armando Guerra; F16Fighter; Czar; bourbon
And Senor Guerra,

I assume all those Gringos who constituted the vast majority of this nation aside from the Irish, Polish and Italian immigrants you so value did squat little to fight WWII.

So without the "newcomers" we would have been hapless?

If these massive waves of Mexican and Central American Amerindians are so great, why aren't their native lands doing more to keep them?

This ain't bourgeoisie Cuba or Colombia or Chile we're talking about here. These are folks only slightly removed from primitive culture and we need them to in one generation or so become an almost plurality here.

Folks that want that are nuts.

That may be racism to your tender sensibilities but it's realism to mine.
24 posted on 02/22/2005 2:47:43 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: wardaddy

You know why they come here. It's like the caste system in India.


27 posted on 02/22/2005 2:54:33 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: wardaddy; Willie Green; Armando Guerra

I would like to put in a good word for the Salvadoran Army, who are strong and heroic members of our OIF coalition.

I'd also like to put in a good word for soldiers from Central American countries who entered the U.S. legally, joined our armed forces, are currently deployed in our fight against jihad and are becoming citizens. There was a huge citizenship ceremony in Los Angeles just 2 weeks ago, where 2,500 people became citizens and among them were proud Marines born in Honduras and Mexico. NO MSM COVERAGE WHATSOEVER. None!


35 posted on 02/22/2005 3:27:33 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: wardaddy
I assume all those Gringos who constituted the vast majority of this nation aside from the Irish, Polish and Italian immigrants you so value did squat little to fight WWII.

The point of my comment was not that Irish, Polish or Italians were of any greater value, but rather that they were considered the end of this nation in their day. One only need look at the commentaries of that time to realize much worse had been said about them then than anything I have seen here about hispanics. Yes, many others who had been here for generations contributed in WWII but so did immigrants. Just like many immigrants are contributing today in the military in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

I have my concerns with many issues surrounding the immigration process. The process of coming to the US legally borders on the ridiculous; Coming here illegally is too easy; Bi-lingual education is a disservice to the immigrants and delays their assimilation; and, we should better distinguish those who are coming here seeking freedom and the American dream as opposed to those who only want to make some money so they can go home in a few years, buy their "rancho" and live like a king.

The last part is really the one that bothers me when "immigrants" are all lumped together. The reality is many newly arriving immigrants better represent the ideals of this country than those that have been here for generations. I would rather sit down with dinner and discuss what freedom and liberty mean to someone newly arrived and has lived through communism and oppression and thinks this country stands for everything great in the world than a "John Kerry" type who hates everything this country stands for and would rather have us bowing to the "smart" UN bureaucrats. Allow in those "yearning to breathe free" immigrants and you can keep out the ones who have no intention of staying here or assimilating and only want to make some money.

36 posted on 02/22/2005 3:32:01 PM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: wardaddy; Armando Guerra
"This [massive waves of innigration] ain't bourgeoisie Cuba or Colombia or Chile we're talking about here. These are folks only slightly removed from primitive culture and we need them to in one generation or so become an almost plurality here.

Folks that want that are nuts."

Exactamundo...

And far too many "immigrants" are NOT all that into assimilating and being "American" either, as had previous generations of immigration.

And we won't even go into the public dole/welfare aspect since 1965.

39 posted on 02/22/2005 3:47:59 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: wardaddy
If these massive waves of Mexican and Central American Amerindians are so great, why aren't their native lands doing more to keep them?

Who here thinks that these millions will fight for America?

A show of hands please?

Anyone?

67 posted on 02/22/2005 6:05:57 PM PST by raybbr
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