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To: hispanarepublicana
From her testimony at the Oct. 13 hearing....(typing as I watch) she says his calls were monitored by prison guards....whine, whine whine, blah, blah blah......mother started tape recording his phone calls; u.s. officials not heeding concerns.......father is employee of Saudi Arabian embassy; he has been imam of embassy mosque; degree of U.S. gov. control is "so powerful" that it can get another government to do things (and this is a problem...why?).....May 2004, an official tells Ali's father to pressure U.S. officials.....lawsuit filed.....wants Saudi Arabia to "liberate itself from the superpower that is America" (isn't that treason?)......lost faith that U.S. officials would take action.....knows that people like "Congressman Conyers will help us"(why don't we try calling Conyers today?)......father wrote to the consulate....consulate blew it off......so what did Ahmed do to deserve this?......closed federal grand jury convened in DC, and they subpoenaed Ahmed's friends and family; may, 2004, FBI told family there was no Grand Jury evidence to indict.....U.S. govt. continues to unlawfuly pressure Saudi.....says he was tortured into confession in Saudi.....a friend (didn't understand pronounciation of his name) studying in Saudi was arrested one week before Ahmed and brought to the U.S......brings up Abu Graib.....something about a "Paintball Case"...(?)......says Ahmed experienced injury to his hands....says they took his fingernails off......says he's the "man in the iron mask"......Saudi Arabia is "our puppuet"...is doing our bidding......
222 posted on 02/22/2005 10:29:20 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez was't cool.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

The "Paintball Case" is known here on FR by the keywords "PAINTBALLCELL" and "VIRGINIAJIHAD" . As I recall, among that ring was an individual of Iraqi heritage who went by the name Tamimi or something similar.


357 posted on 03/09/2005 9:33:32 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: hispanarepublicana; freeperfromnj
The guy who seemed to be at the center of the Paintball/Virginia Jihad group:

The Islamic scholar, Ali Al-Timimi, 39, has confirmed through a spokesman that he is the subject of a grand jury investigation. According to the indictment, "conspirator #1" (Timimi) is the "spiritual leader" of the men. After 9/11, the government said, he prodded the defendants to fight jihad, called the United States an enemy of Islam, and declared U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan legitimate targets. Through a spokesman, Timimi, of Fairfax, Va., denied the accusations. The son of Iraqi immigrants is a doctoral student and researcher at George Mason University, using mathematical models to study cancer.
As an Islamic scholar, Timimi espoused a strict interpretation of the Koran. In one undated speech available online, Timimi says: "Our enemy until the day of judgment is the Christians, what we call the westerners or Europeans" - a reference his spokesman says was to a spiritual and social struggle, not violence.
"He's fundamentally opposed to violence," said Todd Gallinger, a spokesman for Timimi's lawyer, Martin McMahon. "He feels like he's being targeted because he's exercised his First Amendment rights to religion and to speech."
---- "Tracing the case of 'Virginia jihad' , Terror charges link Montco to Kashmir" by Jennifer Lin, Mark Fazlollah, Maria Panaritis and Jeff Shields, Philadelphia Enquirer, Fri, Jul. 25, 2003


And here's an older article mentioning Abu Ali:

Suspects tied to terror group arrested
The Associated Press | 6/27/03 | Curt Anderson
Posted on 06/27/2003 8:20:33 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI made a series of arrests in three states Friday of men suspected of ties to an anti-U.S. terrorist organization whose main goal is driving India out of the disputed Kashmir territory in South Asia.

The arrests of at least seven suspects were made in Pennsylvania, Maryland and Virginia, said federal law enforcement officials speaking on condition of anonymity.

Federal charges against the men, and several others who are overseas, were to be announced later in the day.

The men are alleged to be part of an extremist Muslim organization called Lashkar-e-Taiba, which is on the State Department's list of terrorist organizations. The organization, whose name means "army of the righteous," is characterized by the State Department as strongly anti-U.S. in addition to its goals in Kashmir.

Officials would not immediately say whether the men are suspected of plotting terrorist attacks in the United States, or if they have any direct links to the al-Qaida terror network.

The Indian government has accused Lashkar-e-Taiba of several suicide attacks against government officials and civilians in Kashmir, which is the subject of a long dispute between India and Pakistan.

U.S. authorities obtained a number of warrants this year to conduct searches of the suspects' homes to look for evidence of militant or terrorist activities, officials said. The Washington Post reported earlier this week that some of the suspects played warlike paintball games in Northern Virginia and attended lectures given by a Muslim scholar whose home was also searched.

One suspect, identified as Ahmed Abu-Ali, also has been taken into custody in Saudi Arabia by officials there who are investigating the May 12 bombings in Riyadh in which nine attackers and 25 other people were killed, U.S. officials said.

358 posted on 03/09/2005 9:56:40 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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