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To: Libloather; DCPatriot; Barnyard
I'll keep saying it.

A perfect storm is brewing that could put the Hildabeast into the white house. She's becoming a hawk and getting tough on immigration. If she makes a phony promise to put the military on the border, I think she'll win in '08.
5 posted on 02/21/2005 8:39:16 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: Vision
She couldn't win a cookie bake-off at the New York Erie County Fair...let alone the Presidency of the US.

Argentina perhaps.

8 posted on 02/21/2005 8:41:55 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Vision
A perfect storm is brewing that could put the Hildabeast into the white house

People discount this woman at their peril. There's nothing she won't do to regain the White House.

13 posted on 02/21/2005 8:43:12 PM PST by skip_intro
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To: Vision
I think she'll win in '08.

By deliberately ditching the Hispanic vote? Not that way.

15 posted on 02/21/2005 8:44:27 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Vision

Hillary's bid may not work, but it has been in the works a long time, and her positioning is being crafted and re-crafted virtually every day. It is illusion, of course, that is being created by the NYT---if the writer is persuasive enough, who has the wherewithal to marshal enough facts to refute him? So we are left with a self-fulfulling prophesy, MAYBE. The claim that she has Republican support is something I have no trouble believing .Most of them are RINOs and they'd be willing to give someone like Hillary a wide berth as she goes about proving to the voting public that she's a DINO. Whoever is best as the game as far as they're concerned is the one who deserves to win.


36 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:18 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Vision

Hillary's bid may not work, but it has been in the works a long time, and her positioning is being crafted and re-crafted virtually every day. It is illusion, of course, that is being created by the NYT---if the writer is persuasive enough, who has the wherewithal to marshal enough facts to refute him? So we are left with a self-fulfulling prophesy, MAYBE. The claim that she has Republican support is something I have no trouble believing .Most of them are RINOs and they'd be willing to give someone like Hillary a wide berth as she goes about proving to the voting public that she's a DINO. Whoever is best as the game as far as they're concerned is the one who deserves to win.


37 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:28 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Vision
A perfect storm is brewing that could put the Hildabeast into the white house.

As I've said before, Hillary has a relatively good chance of becoming President and a better chance than any other person now alive.

The February 15th issue of the Wall Street Journal Political Diary had an interesting speculation:

What Sen. Clinton needs is what New York Gov. George Pataki never seemed to get. To earn a larger leadership position, a politician needs to cement a reputation by doing at least one big thing that command national attention and applause. Rudy Giuliani did it by solving New York City's crime problem. Ronald Reagan cemented his conservative leadership status by delivering a hard-hitting prime time speech endorsing Barry Goldwater. If Gov. Pataki had killed rent control in New York City, he'd be the darling of the right. Gov. Bredesen is killing TennCare, his state's failing and unaffordable program of health care subsidies for thousands of able-bodied adults -- and earning national attention as an effective manager not bogged down by liberal shibboleths.

Sen. Clinton could be her party's great middle hope if she would reach across the aisle now. If she helped make Social Security private accounts possible, she'd get almost as much credit as President Bush -- and begin to erase her lingering image as a left-wing reactionary to voters in much of the country. That would go a long way towards driving down her negatives nationally and cementing her reputation as being the person who can bring electoral victory.

Hillary Clinton is a smart politician -- much smarter than Gore or Kerry. I wouldn't be at all surprised if she pulled off something such as the above. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if we soon had another 4 or 8 years of a Clinton White House.
47 posted on 02/21/2005 9:07:20 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: Vision

The Left has Karl Rove as the all-powerful supervillain; the Right seems to have chosen Hillary Clinton for that role. She's a skilled politician, yes, but hardly the virtuosa that so many FReepers seem to believe. It's important not to underestimate your opponents, but also vital not to overestimate them. We'll combat her when the time comes, but we shouldn't spend years in pointless fear of a charicature-Clinton.


56 posted on 02/21/2005 9:14:37 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (The 80s belonged to the Gipper, the Aughts belong to Dubya!)
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To: Vision
If she makes a phony promise to put the military on the border, I think she'll win in '08.

Shhhhhhhh, do not tell anyone, the Republican candidate can make a similar promise too.

64 posted on 02/21/2005 9:18:48 PM PST by jveritas
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To: Vision
If she makes a phony promise to put the military on the border, I think she'll win in '08.

If Americans are stupid enough to believe her, maybe this nation deserves her.

73 posted on 02/21/2005 9:22:23 PM PST by My2Cents (Fringe poster since 1998.)
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To: Vision; jveritas; Howlin
A perfect storm is brewing that could put the Hildabeast into the white house. She's becoming a hawk and getting tough on immigration. If she makes a phony promise to put the military on the border, I think she'll win in '08.

Think what you want. Only two kinds of people would vote for Hillary if she ran on that issue. The Democrat base (which she has no matter what) and the Buchananites/Tancredoites who won't vote Republican no matter who is running.

80 posted on 02/21/2005 9:25:38 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Vision

Wouldn't it be great if Bush announced that, because of her insistence on troops on border, that he was going to do just that?


180 posted on 02/22/2005 3:34:19 AM PST by Grateful One
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To: Vision

Just think of all those executive orders she can dream up and sign in the middle of the night if she should win.


187 posted on 02/22/2005 6:28:13 AM PST by ladylib
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To: Vision
I think she'll win in '08.

You wouldn't want to make a sizable side bet on that would you? Hmmm?

200 posted on 02/22/2005 9:41:36 AM PST by SlightOfTongue
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