1. We cannot win an all out war with 1 billion people. We have neither the resources nor the political capital to survive such a campaign.
2. The dems will eat us alive once all the body bags start coming home, making the world safe for Hillary, Kennedy and whatever future commies are hurled from our wonderful system of higher education.
3. There are tens, maybe hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims who are disgusted by what is being done to their religion but stay silent or they and their families get the midnight garrot from moles planted throughout the world (note- see NJ) .
4. The only way we can win this war against Muslim extremism is to encourage, support and align ourselves with these moderate Muslim elements and use them as front line of defense and offense against the jihadists.
5. Medieval Islam can be pulled into the 21st century.
6. Bush has made the right moves by helping facilitate modern democracies in both Afghanistan and Iraq. These can not only be used as examples but also sources of support in the coming war with the most extreme of Islamic/Wahhabists elements.
7. All people thirst for democracy.
8. All people will defend those democracies if they believe they have at least a 25% chance of doing so. American support is worth 20%.
9. Defeatists are dangerous to the human spirit. The sap our energy and our will and must be opposed at every turn.
There is more, but I will allow you to respond first.
Your statement implies that only conventional weapons are at our disposal.
2. The dems will eat us alive once all the body bags start coming home, making the world safe for Hillary, Kennedy and whatever future commies are hurled from our wonderful system of higher education.
See my previous response. One key-turn on a submarine can do a lot.
3. There are tens, maybe hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims who are disgusted by what is being done to their religion but stay silent or they and their families get the midnight garrot from moles planted throughout the world (note- see NJ) .
Yeah. I see them in those weekly street protests, shouting to the heavens.
4. The only way we can win this war against Muslim extremism is to encourage, support and align ourselves with these moderate Muslim elements and use them as front line of defense and offense against the jihadists.
I disagree. We can win this war by destroying our enemies, their families, their ideological supporters.
5. Medieval Islam can be pulled into the 21st century.
I disagree. Islam had a several-centuries head start on the Western world. It languishes in a state of violence and squalor. If you think a towel-head with a website and a penchant for press releases will change the world, you're a dhimi waiting to be subjugated. Do you, by any chance, have any basis in fact for your statement? You certainly can't use history. Sounds like an emotion with no factual basis to me.
6. Bush has made the right moves by helping facilitate modern democracies in both Afghanistan and Iraq. These can not only be used as examples but also sources of support in the coming war with the most extreme of Islamic/Wahhabists elements.
Just like the Saudis supported us this time around, after we saved them and their oil fields 15 years ago. Oh, that's right. They didn't.
7. All people thirst for democracy.
Then why have there been no Muslim democracies until we forced them on two countries just now? That's a simple enough question for a smart guy like you.
8. All people will defend those democracies if they believe they have at least a 25% chance of doing so. American support is worth 20%.
Once again, you're stating an opinion with no basis in fact. Your statement is unsupportable.
9. Defeatists are dangerous to the human spirit. The sap our energy and our will and must be opposed at every turn.
Muslims are dangerous to mankind.
1.) Unproven until we try it.
2.) Pure conjecture.
3.) You have no idea how many there are, and have no statistics to back up your assertion. There may be 400 million and there may be none.
4.) Also pure conjecture. We could win the war against radical islam if we used nukes, nerve gas, and biological weapons. It wouldn't be pretty, but we have the weapons to do it. All we lack is the political will.
5.) Also pure conjecture. How can we pull (your word) a billion people anywhere? What if they don't want to be pulled?
6. It remains to be seen if Bush has made the right decisions. We won't know that for at least a generation. He may be correct, or he may be making an error which could prove fatal to Western Civilization. I hope you're correct, but at this point there's no way to prove that.
7.) Demonstrably false. The Imperial Japanese weren't 'thirsting' for democracy. Osama Bin Laden isn't 'thirsting' for democracy. Neither is Zarqawi.
8.) Pure conjecture on your part. You have absolutely no proof that 25% is some kind of magic number.
In some cases, American support creates the exact opposite of the intended effect. They sure didn't seem to want American Style Democracy in Somalia did they?
9.) Here's the only thing you've said that's even partially correct. Defeatism as an attitude is indeed dangerous. What's equally dangerous is refusing to see your enemies as they really are. The only reason Japan is a nominally Democratic nation today is because we destroyed their military machine, wiped out their soldiers without mercy, and ultimately used not one but two nuclear weapons on them and threatened to continue to do so until they capitulated unconditionally. Even then it took decades to really get what you mistakenly call 'democracy' to take root. A similar case was Nazi Germany. It wasn't until their nation was utterly destroyed, their leaders in prison or dead, and thier military machine reduced to ashes that we could even begin to 'democratize' them.
Your poor grasp of the lessons of history seems to be exceed only by your worse grasp of human nature my friend.
There are roughly a billion followers of Islam in the world. Let's say that only 10% of them are 'radicals'. I think that number is low, but let's use it for the sake of argument. That's 100 million people who are perfectly willing to lie, cheat, steal, and commit the most heinous crimes in the name of their 'prophet'.
Add to that the fact that those 100 million people are spread over approximately half the globe.
On top of that you can factor in that it's those 100 million who are absolutely fanatical in their devotion to the 'cause' and are willing to murder anyone who disagrees with them even slightly.
Now, your fine new friends may be sincere. If they are, I'll salute their bravery. However, the odds are that they are not. Hell, their own 'holy book' commands them to lie to us 'heathen infidels', so how do you know, I mean really know they aren't just tellin you what you want to hear?
Now, you get back to me when you've digested my responses to you.
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Your statement implies that only conventional weapons are at our disposal.
2. The dems will eat us alive once all the body bags start coming home, making the world safe for Hillary, Kennedy and whatever future commies are hurled from our wonderful system of higher education.
See my previous response. One key-turn on a submarine can do a lot.
3. There are tens, maybe hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims who are disgusted by what is being done to their religion but stay silent or they and their families get the midnight garrot from moles planted throughout the world (note- see NJ) .
Yeah. I see them in those weekly street protests, shouting to the heavens.
4. The only way we can win this war against Muslim extremism is to encourage, support and align ourselves with these moderate Muslim elements and use them as front line of defense and offense against the jihadists.
I disagree. We can win this war by destroying our enemies, their families, their ideological supporters.
5. Medieval Islam can be pulled into the 21st century.
I disagree. Islam had a several-centuries head start on the Western world. It languishes in a state of violence and squalor. If you think a towel-head with a website and a penchant for press releases will change the world, you're a dhimi waiting to be subjugated. Do you, by any chance, have any basis in fact for your statement? You certainly can't use history. Sounds like an emotion with no factual basis to me.
6. Bush has made the right moves by helping facilitate modern democracies in both Afghanistan and Iraq. These can not only be used as examples but also sources of support in the coming war with the most extreme of Islamic/Wahhabists elements.
Just like the Saudis supported us this time around, after we saved them and their oil fields 15 years ago. Oh, that's right. They didn't.
7. All people thirst for democracy.
Then why have there been no Muslim democracies until we forced them on two countries just now? That's a simple enough question for a smart guy like you.
8. All people will defend those democracies if they believe they have at least a 25% chance of doing so. American support is worth 20%.
Once again, you're stating an opinion with no basis in fact. Your statement is unsupportable.
9. Defeatists are dangerous to the human spirit. The sap our energy and our will and must be opposed at every turn.
Muslims are dangerous to mankind.