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To: West Coast Conservative

That's a silly myth perpetuated by the MSM.

Let's see, what Senators have lost since JFK?

George McGovern - A loudmouth, uncharismatic extremist loses to Nixon.

Bob Dole - A boring, uncharismatic old man loses to one of the most charismatic men ever to be in politics, and STILL keeps him below 50% of the vote.

John Kerry - A dower, arrogant, flip-floping, anti-war elitist who runs an incompetent campaign against a sitting war president.


So 3 Senators have lost, all of them very flawed Candidates, all of whom wern't as personable or as likable as their competetors.

I don't really think it has much to do with them being Senators. I guess part of Kerry's flip-floping was made possible by the fact that he had taken so many votes, but at the same time, the fact that he was so well versed in national issues due to 20 years on the national stage was part of his selling points, so it was a mixed bad.

I think a LOT of Senators who were more charismatic could have won. I think Bob Kerrey might have won had he won the nomination in 92. I think "Scoop" Jackson would have won had he won the primary in '76. (yes, I know, both Dems. The point is that they were charismatic and likable).

I honestly think part of it is a self-fufilling prophacy. I think Frist or Allen would make good nominees in '08. I also think that Mel Martinez or John Corynan might be good candidates at some point in the future.

Don't discount them just because they are Senators, especially in a post-9/11 world where knowledge of international issues is of upmost importance.


34 posted on 02/21/2005 12:17:55 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

Good post. Also besides charisma the platform does matter. Especially to the people in power who will choose who to back. And I don't mean that in a conspiracy style, just they don't want a lunatic rising up, even if hes popular.


Frist has the combination of all Republican core beliefs, which every other candidate I have seen so far has at least one major flaw. Eg, Guiliani is pro-abortion, and pro-higher taxes.

Frist is pro-life, pro-free enterprise, 'ownership society', tort reform, low taxes, even more limited government then GWB, pro-defense, pro-free trade, pro-immigration, relatively pro-gun rights.

That is a long list, but he is the only one besides Jeb and GWB on the national stage I have seen atm who has that platform(admittedly I don't know all the contenders well, so would be happy to hear others). So the field isn't as wide as it seems when you start thinking what each candidate's platform would be.

And the platform I just laid out is how to keep America as a superpower and more importantly to continue growing the standard of living, in the years to come.


71 posted on 02/21/2005 1:24:16 PM PST by ran15
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To: zbigreddogz
George McGovern - A loudmouth, uncharismatic extremist loses to Nixon.

That's one of the most ignorant statements ever posted.

How old are you?

82 posted on 02/21/2005 1:41:29 PM PST by iconoclast (Learn all you can about Leo Strauss.)
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