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Iraq marshes(Biblical Eden) can be partially restored
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Posted on 02/21/2005 7:04:50 AM PST by Alex Marko

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To: Lurking2Long

It's biblical!


21 posted on 02/21/2005 7:47:40 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: Mathemagician

> The question is impossible to answer, because no information is available about prevailing ocean currents during the flood.

Ah, but there's a problem. If the account is literal fact, then the Creationists would be right and the topography of the world was altered drastically... the Grand Canyon was carved, the continents and mountains raised, the seabeds sunk, etc. There's nothing sedate about this. The Ark woulda got blowed all over hell and gone.


22 posted on 02/21/2005 7:49:30 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: Mathemagician

If you change "Moses" to "Noah" I agree with your post. :o)


23 posted on 02/21/2005 7:51:18 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Alex Marko
But the scientists said a sustained international effort would be needed to support Iraqis' efforts to turn the current ad-hoc flooding into a sustainable long-term revival.

Scientist-speak for "we need grant money".

As big of an environment wrecker as Saddam was you'd think the Greenies would have marched on Baghdad themselves but I guess hating America comes first. Should I wait for them to thank President Bush for saving the marshes?

24 posted on 02/21/2005 7:51:30 AM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: orionblamblam
But as a typical anti-Creationist, you ignore the power of the Creator to do as He wills.

(That explains the sarcasm/cynicism of your first post).

26 posted on 02/21/2005 7:52:39 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Quix
Plans by Turkey and Iran to take more water from the Tigris and Euphrates rivers also pose a long-term threat to marshland restoration.
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This could get real interesting not just to the marshland but the whole area.
27 posted on 02/21/2005 7:55:21 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Exactly my point.

Just like leftists don't really care about human rights. Otherwise they would have been on the bandwagon to liberate the brutally oppressed Iraqis, and not be living in a land of make believe where they say the Iraqis were peacefully flying kites until the bad old American soldiers came and killed them.........

They don't care a thing about anything but power and leftist extremist ideology.

28 posted on 02/21/2005 7:55:53 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: orionblamblam

Well, a lot of archaeological evidence shows that the Bible was reasonably accurate. We know that modern western civilization got its start in that region (I regard Genesis as describing the beginnings of modern man, the end of a very long process) and many cultures from the region describe a cataclysmic flood that covered the entire world known to the people there.


29 posted on 02/21/2005 8:04:47 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: orionblamblam
Genesis 2:10-14

10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold...13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

Can't say as I can tell whether the garden was at the top or bottom of the Tigris/Euphrates system but, according to scripture, this is why Eden was not in Jersey.

30 posted on 02/21/2005 8:09:44 AM PST by AnOldCowhand (The west is dead. You may lose a sweetheart, but you will never forget her - Charles Russell)
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To: Alex Marko

I doubt the Garden was that confined. There were rivers running through it and all sorts of animals for Adam to name. It's a tribute to Man's basic flaws that Adam hung around the one tree, in the one area where he could get into trouble...


31 posted on 02/21/2005 8:59:21 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: ohioWfan

> as a typical anti-Creationist, you ignore the power of the Creator to do as He wills.

Hardly. I do not ignore the power of the Cretor to create the world over a dozen billion years of stellar evolution and to create the diversity of life on Earth via evolution.

It just seems odd that God seems to favor one small, geologically and ecologically unimpressive region of the world over all others...


32 posted on 02/21/2005 8:59:53 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

YUP.

Especially given that THE BIBLE speaks of such rivers being dried up in the end times. . . . that the KING OF THE EAST have an easier time invading toward Israel.

stay tuned . . .


33 posted on 02/21/2005 9:06:39 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: AnOldCowhand

> The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.


OK, fair enough. However, two things:

1: How certain are you that these are the *same* rivers, and not just re-named new ones? (Note that there is a Cairo in Illinois, a Memphis in Tennessee, a Moscow in Idaho, and several Paris' across the States.)

2: And if they *are* the same rivers, that pretty much blows the whole "the Earth was remade by the flood" arguement.


34 posted on 02/21/2005 9:12:03 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: Quix

> rivers being dried up ... easier time invading toward Israel.

Rivers do not present obstacles to invasions anymore. There are these things called "airplanes..."


35 posted on 02/21/2005 9:13:01 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: orionblamblam

No.


36 posted on 02/21/2005 9:38:14 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: orionblamblam

But, the Bible suggests they'll be riding on horses.


37 posted on 02/21/2005 9:50:07 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: orionblamblam
Oooh! Ooooh!! Can we then berate anyone who learns from it?

cute.
38 posted on 02/21/2005 10:00:02 AM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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To: monkeywrench

> the Bible suggests they'll be riding on horses.

Well, good luck with that. I bet the IDF will have a fun time taking on horse-mounted cavalry with Apaches, F-16's and Merkavas.


39 posted on 02/21/2005 10:01:24 AM PST by orionblamblam
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1: How certain are you that these are the *same* rivers, and not just re-named new ones? (Note that there is a Cairo in Illinois, a Memphis in Tennessee, a Moscow in Idaho, and several Paris' across the States.)

Admittedly, Scripture is silent so, no, I cannot be certain. You have me there.

2: And if they *are* the same rivers, that pretty much blows the whole "the Earth was remade by the flood" arguement.

What is remade? If the Colorado river in Arizona was once a babbling brook through verdant pastures and some 'event' turned it into what it is now, then I would say it has been remade, yet it is still the Colorado. (No that example isn't based on anyone's theories...it just works).

40 posted on 02/21/2005 10:01:47 AM PST by AnOldCowhand (The west is dead. You may lose a sweetheart, but you will never forget her - Charles Russell)
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