Posted on 02/20/2005 6:45:19 PM PST by Lessismore
Chalabi essentially got railroaded by some disaffected State Dept folks.I suspect the same thing. It's hard to know anything with certainty, but it's certainly true that there are plenty of State Dept folks who cheer Fats Kennedy and jeer Bush.
Well, if he gets it, he'll be another example of Sylvan Cappell's dictum that "there's no telling how far a good man will go once he leave mathematics." (Cappell was mostly thinking of people who abandoned mathematics for investment banking, but. . .)
I know one of Chalabi's Ph.D. classmates, and my advisor quoted one of his theorems at the last conference we both attended, mostly to tease the audience by claiming it was due to the most famous living mathematician.
Even your assertion / conclusion in just the above comments alone are foolish (let alone the rest of your full comments) - The idea that Chalabi was frusrated without "getting on with his business" does not mean at all!! - That the members of the SOF teams he was working with weren't getting their work done! -
It does not mean that in the least. It means they were getting their work done but Mr. Chalabi was more concerned with getting himself into captured Saddam palaces! - Or with looting (which many of his men took part in once they were up in Baghdad!) - The SOF teams based with Mr. Chalaibi have a list of accomplishments in Iraq second to none. They were more than getting their work done. But understand...it was ontheir timetable...NOT Mr. Chalabi's!
As for sources - I will not give the names of who I know that was there - But there are SEVEN members of the SOF A-teams working directly with Mr. Chalabi that are all on record in the book Masters of Chaos citing exactly the same assertions that my friend (who was there as well) about Mr. Chalabi -
And the assertion still holds true - You don't have a clue about what went on early in the war - especially not what went on concerning Mr. Chalabi - Or the role of SOF -
Also you are simply forgetting that Mr. Chalabi was found with information he was not suppose to have on him (in a raid by US FORCES) - Those members of the SOF that worked with Mr. Chalabi early on in the invasion all (to a man) say he is a snake -
But, you go on, you know better than them - Please. (and there is no sarcasm there). You probably aren't even aware of the specific OODA protocol that was put in place for Mr. Chalabi and his men (which the SOF were suppose to over-see / manage. Among doing a dozen other things as well).
Again, this is where you are being 100% inaccurate. There is a documented example of SOF on the record in the book Masters of Chaos - Why you choose not to inform yourself, yet act as if you know about Mr. Chalabi....or act is if no one else could have enough information to know about him.... is beyond me (and silly).
And lastly, your comments from above suggesting that if Mr. Chalabi wasn't getting what he wanted done fast enough...that it "takes two to tango"....is simply ridiculous! (beyond belief) - The SOF were concerned with meeting military objectives...NOT Mr. Chalabi's (thank god).
Anybody who defends Chalabi is doing so to the detriment of President Bush. I have no use for the agents provacateur with agendas defending Chalibi.
Let those who value loyalty ---who are authentic conservatives---not conservatives of convenience with agendas----stand with President Bush, and let's not ever forget the reasons why President Bush let Chalabi hang.
As an authentic conservative, President Bush values loyalty above all else----as do all real conservatives. Mr Bush let Chalabi hang, and there was a very good reason for it.
"Uriah Heep" Chalabi was running the classic "Intelligence For Sale" scam. Every con artist and their cousin came crawling out of the woodwork to cash in. Chalabi was extorting $340,000 per month (that's per month) from US taxpayers. (Charles Dickens' Uriah Heep character was notorious for wielding undue influence, a bounder who was always planning and plotting, ingratiating himself into the confidence of others. Uriah Heep was obsequious, manipulative, and wormed his way into positions of influence. Uriah was a consummate con man, and not to be trusted. Translated into the language of the popular culture, the Uriah Heeps would position themselves as amenable to conservatives but are insincere in these feelings, using conservatives only to advance their own agendas and ambitions.)
The US paid Chalabi and his Iraq National Congress (INC) some $92 million dollars (plus all they could stash offshore). Chalabi's INC facilitated the effort to feed bogus intelligence to the Pentagon and the CIA. After the US invaded Iraq, our military could not even find the alleged agent network Chalabi said he ran. Chalabi's explanation? "They are in hiding".........What a crock.
Chalabi is part of the Mideast cesspool's ruling class---the Socialistic Darwinists---survival of the fittest with the strong devouring the weak----Chalabi is a master at it.
Moreover, Chalabi is a master swindler. He was convicted in absentia of incredibly vile criminal charges that were formally filed by Jordan. Chalabi, a long-time Iraqi exile, initially based himself in London, was by Richard Perle, a neo-conservative embedded in the US government. Chalabi first came into the limelight over his debacle in Jordan in 1992, when his Petra Bank went bust leaving more than $300 million in debts.
The Jordanians sentenced him in absentia, and a court in Amman found him guilty of 31 counts of embezzlement and bank fraud. He was given 22 years in hard labor.
Chalabi, however, never served any time. He was helped out of Jordan in a car provided for by Prince Hassan, the brother of then King Hussein. He made his way to London, where he survived on the monthly stipend of $340,000 allocated by the US Defense Department's Defense Intelligence Agency.
Chalabi claims he is innocent. Predictably, He says he was framed by Saddam Hussein and King Hussein, who connived to put an end to his anti-Saddam activities. Chalabi maintains that he is in possession of documents proving his innocence. Yeah, sure. And those documents are as authentic as CBS' TANG documents.
Appears to me that Chalabi is about as honest and trustworthy as GWB's worst enemy----George Soros. They were both convicted. Ergo, they are both criminals.
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