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Thanks for the ping. After reading the transcript along with the thread, I have a better feel of how Graham jumped in. I'll again say I'm pleased that he had that sense, a sense he hasn't exhibited in the Senate on more than one occasion.

As far as McCain goes, my true opinion of him is that he's a joyless, jealous, abusive man who is incapable of admitting a mistake or taking the high road.

I've said many times that we have made serious mistakes and we've paid a heavy price for those mistakes. And I have pointed them out a long time ago.

He's not going to give up making this point. He joined the "there aren't enough troops in Iraq" team and like most of his positions, his ego won't let him budge. His first point regarding withdrawal and that pressure is accurate, American opinion and demands are driven by casualties. It is also an incredibly stupid thing to say to our troops, the Iraqis, Americans and our enemies. All that needed to be said was what Graham said.