Posted on 02/18/2005 9:21:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne
Illegal Immigration Has Proven to Be a Divisive Issue for the Two of You
http://www.hotr.us/articles/ii050216.pdf
By the Wave of His Hand
http://www.hotr.us/articles/ii050217wave.pdf
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
and it is time to do just that, Wake up!
Thanks DoughtyOne..
...and criminality?
Thank you!
Jim, both you and I agree that every person on the planet is created equal. We also must realize that every person is subject to reasoned laws. I have no reason to believe that our laws are unjust, or that our nation is abusing God's will by enacting those reasoned laws.
Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." If a Jew in Jesus day, occupied by a foreign nation, could encourage his citizens to respect the laws of that occupying force, I would submit we could honor our nation's laws as long as they are reasoned.
Allowing one nation's citizens PREFERENCE over all others when it comes to access to this nation, is in itself very problematic for me. It is biased.
Yeah, kinda. And don't forget to mention a countryside not dotted and pockmarked by Walmarts and Targets selling the always abundant "Made in China" goods.
As a side note, I think W's guest worker initiative has a good purpose: To take the strain off border guards and thereby allow them to hunt-down those who want to sneak into America to do us harm. Plus if an American doesn't want to take out the trash at Joe's Bar and Grill in San Diego, I couldn't care as long as said Mexican is fingerprinted and ID'ed upon entry, obeys the law, and promptly leaves when said time expires.
Yes, people ought to stand in line like all the others.
I agree. For illegal immigrants, their time expired when their first foot hit U.S. soil.
Dear DoughtyOne,
Thank you for trying to define the American Dream, a welcome topic. But I have to add one caveat: I don't mind whoever comes to our shores as long as they don't expect to receive any welfare, food stamps, medical care for free, social security, etc. How can we blame the eternal poor for coming here when we line their pockets with our gold? The system is so broken I don't believe we can fix it anymore, thus the dissension on our own FR.
Again, there would be no "illegal problem" if there were zero handouts...just like in the days when my grandparents had to be sponsored and have jobs if they wanted entrance to our soil. They followed the rules. They prospered.
End entitlements for all immigrants legal and illegal and the problem will end.
The Westerner
Thank you for the comments. I will bow out now and let others discuss what I have written.
Illegal immigrants should be fingerprinted, photographed, and documented and unceremoniously ejected from the U.S. of A. and told that if they ever come bak illegally they can give birth to 90 days in jail and another unceremonious expulsion.
I just wanted to get your reaction to my idea which is to reverse American culture 150 years. I can dream, can't I?
Well done!
Subtle is not your middle name -
Now I'll have to email this thread URL out and use it to bring more good FReepers.
Very nice.
I can't add anything here.
It matters to some.
It's no "big deal" to others.
We shall see who prevails in this country politically over this. This debate will chart our course.
My wife and I are attending a dinner roundtable March 6th here in Nashville with Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (my district) and Congressman James Sensenbrenner Jr to discuss precisely this issue.
Thanks for the ping!
AMEN!!!
I understand Vicente Fox has printed them pamphlets to aid their immigration here, and is suing our governments to insure their continued welfare.
I lost another tile job to some fellows who speak no engles y tambien left large holes in the owners' countertop.
But the owners only see them half the year as the other half they're up with Patty Murray.
But I am certain they do not actually vote twice.
Well I am poquito certain.
But I am not complaining, ya lo creo.
Wait till Mrs Clinton gets elected and you will be paying for healthfare too!
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