Transcript: Shep Smith's interview with Eric Burns -- "Deep Throat is fiction"

Studio-B with Shepard Smith ^ | 2/18/05

[Just mythoughts]

"The parking garage description used by Woodward and Bernstein fits the Jefferson building parking garage in Arlington Towers."


That may well be, however, Dean as counsel would not have had access to some of the information these two were given, unless he, Dean was being fed by an insider.

[muawiyah]

The first morning I saw Dean I walked out the front door of the building (rather than down a hall to a stairway to the end) and lo and behold there was what I took to be a 1953 Ford waiting in the parking circle. The driver had a burr haircut, kind of flat-topped. I took him to be H. R. Haldemann who drove an identical vehicle.

Not sure you could be more of an insider than H.R. He may even have had access to Nixon's safe where the infamous "secret slush fund" was kept.

[BluH2o]

My take on 'Deep Throat' that it wasn't one individual but a composite of several has been my belief for over 20 year. What confirmed it, in my view, was Woodward's deathbed interview of former CIA Director William Casey ... which didn't happen according to Casey's wife, who, with other family members ... were with him around the clock for days prior to his death. Woodward, like his liberal brethren in the journalism field, has a problem with the truth when actual fact doesn't jibe with his vision of issues.

[Just mythoughts]

"The first morning I saw Dean I walked out the front door of the building (rather than down a hall to a stairway to the end) and lo and behold there was what I took to be a 1953 Ford waiting in the parking circle. The driver had a burr haircut, kind of flat-topped. I took him to be H. R. Haldemann who drove an identical vehicle.
Not sure you could be more of an insider than H.R. He may even have had access to Nixon's safe where the infamous "secret slush fund" was kept."


Dean hated Halderman, and no reason to believe that Halderman was feeding Dean. The 'secret slush fund' was not the 'key' to bringing down Nixon. There were no laws regarding 'secret slush funds', thus no crime.

What exactly was going on with the world during the time of Nixon? Look what happened, who went to him to tell him it was time to go. Look what happened after Nixon became the 'devil' himself.

There is far more to the bringing down of Nixon than campaign 'secret slush funds'. I do not expect in my life time to ever be told exactly what was going on, or the real sources to be named. Dean was a useful tool who was covering his back side. (IMO)

[bray]

No Deep Throat and no illegal trip to Cambodia?? The 70's are falling apart!!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Winning Troops

[muawiyah]

Hmmm ~ where do you think the money was coming from to pay the "Cuban Defendants"?

And why wouldn't Haldemann and Dean have cooperated out of their own self-interest? Even if Dean hated Haldemann, that doesn't prove anything. Dean hated G. Gordon Liddy. He hated many others. He's just that kinda' guy.

Sometimes you don't need to look at the big picture ~ just the little picture ~ and how long the jail term is going to be.

Let's use Martha Stewart for exampl ~ she was facing only 6 months yet she was willing to let one of her broker's assistants take the rap for the whole thing. Why should we expect more out of John Dean than we expect out of Martha Stewart?

[Just mythoughts]

"Hmmm ~ where do you think the money was coming from to pay the "Cuban Defendants"?"


Bringing down Nixon was not about 'Cuban Defendants'. Now do you have one positive press story from anyplace regarding Halderman, and there was no protection gained for Halderman at all. He went down just like Nixon did.

Ending Vietnam under whatever it took was allllll the rage, we even had JFKerry fronting for the liberals in Paris of all places, when Kissinger was over their arguing over what shape and size of table they would draw up that agreement for US withdrawal. Look what we ended up with in that Vietnam agreement, the 'commies' won. (or so they believe)

Now think about allll that 'RED' Chinese slush funds the Clintons raked in, should enlighten people that bringing down Nixon was not about 'slush funds'.

Jimmy Carter's tenure is the show and tell of what bringing Nixon down was all about. Jimmy was bent of making us same as the rest of the world. He had more respect for the USSR and fundies in Iran than he did about this nation.

This same mindset attempted to do to present Pres. Bush what they did to Nixon.

[CholeraJoe]

I knew Steve well. He, I and Gov Martz drank tequila at Windbag's on the Gulch one night in 2001. If Woodward and Bernstien were going to reveal Deep Throat's name after his death, they would have revealed it over a year ago, when Steve died.

[muawiyah]

Sorry about the lateness of my post ~ something happened to the computer.

However, 100% of everything I've written so far appeared in an affidavit I filed with Judge Sirica way back when (during the sentencing phase for the "Cuban Defendants" ~ the original fall guys).

That's probably why I'm weak on understanding motives ~ I was merely one of the witnesses to various deeds done within the context of the bigger event.

After many years I've concluded that Nixon might well have framed himself so that he could walk off with the "slush fund" ~ since the only piece of furniture he took with him the day he left was the safe.

Of course that would be silly ~ he was a rich man ~ but that happened after he left the White House.

McGovern low-balled the amount too ~ he said it was a "million dollar slush fund". There was much more than that ~ no doubt NOT in one dollar bills!

[Just mythoughts]

"McGovern low-balled the amount too ~ he said it was a "million dollar slush fund". There was much more than that ~ no doubt NOT in one dollar bills!"

LOL probably got his cut.

I do not doubt what you have posted, however, after the Clintons, and the fact that Hillry cut her political teeth working on impeachment and the path she has taken, is the evidence for me that this was not just about 'Cuban defendants' or a huge sum of cash.

That is why I do not believe we will ever be told who the 'Deep Throat' is, and why the profile fits so many, because there were many involved.

Personally, I would liken it to a 'coup' more than anything else.

[muawiyah]

The coup theory is quite old. Somebody came up with that in the Village Voice within weeks of General Haig telling us he was in charge, and Barry Goldwater, also an Air Force General, visiting Nixon to tell him it was time to hat up.

There were yet other generals and admirals involved in it.

Concerning Hillary, she and her new husband, Billzo, once stayed in apartment right across from mine. They had another woman with her. Some time in the night (2, maybe 3 AM) I heard a bang on my door. So, I went out, opened it up, and there was Hillary, naked as a jaybird, drunk out of her mind, wallowing around in her own vomit which had begun creeping under my door.

She wasn't a big time conspirator at the time, just another floozy with a law degree ~ and lordy, don't we just have too many of them these days.

BTW ~ full disclosure here. Nixon's mother spelled it "Millhouse", but it was really a much more prosaic "Mullis", which is pretty clearly Alsatian in origin. They're cousins! Odds are our buddy over at American Spectator is one of them too.

[Just mythoughts]

"The coup theory is quite old. Somebody came up with that in the Village Voice within weeks of General Haig telling us he was in charge, and Barry Goldwater, also an Air Force General, visiting Nixon to tell him it was time to hat up."

Interesting, was not aware of the Village Voice pointing fingers in this direction. The 'coup' I referenced would have been more invisible players, and most likely individuals we would not recognize at the time. Seems to me these of prominent profile would have been given the signal that Nixon was sufficiently tarnished and the American people would not stand behind him.

How many were aware of JFKerry Inc., traveling to Paris paving the way for the communists?

Oh I agree Hillry was a low level liberal lawyer in training, however, she was an excellent student, and she directed her hubby in reenacting all that was 'watergate'.

Her hubby's problem was he could not keep his pants on.

[muawiyah]

BTW, it was Bill Clinton who proved that Nixon could have beaten any rap.

Other than the opportunity to walk off with the "slush fund" there was no reason for Nixon to resign.

[Timeout]

That's what I thought...that DT was in the news accounts before Nixon's resignation. But, Burns is saying DT was concocted by the publisher when the book was being edited. Doesn't one preclude the other?

[Timeout]

I've always wondered about someone who never gets mentioned:
Bill Ruckelshaus. He was deeply involved in the middle stages of W'gate story (Saturday Night Massacre) when he was Acting FBI Director or Deputy AG. The only problem with my theory is that he was at EPA when the Post's articles first started. Would he have had (or been fed) the info he passed along to the Post? I don't know. But his entire career he has emphasized his moral character..he wouldn't have tolerated "a cancer on the presidency".