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Record US Trade Deficits Spell Impending Economic Defeat
AmericanEconomicAlert.org ^ | Thursday, February 17, 2005 | William R. Hawkins

Posted on 02/18/2005 9:55:18 AM PST by Willie Green

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Here are the facts:

Gross Domestic Product (GDP), the measure of the USA's output of goods and services, is calculated by the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis using the following items:

The BEA News Release for FOURTH QUARTER 2004 provides us with the following current data for these items. (Seasonally adjusted at annual rates)

Gross domestic product (GDP)............................. $11,728.0 billion
Personal consumption expenditures.......................... 8,231.1 (70.18% of GDP)
Gross private domestic investment.......................... 1,922.4 (16.39% of GDP)
Net exports of goods and services........................... -609.3 (-5.19% of GDP)
Government consumption expenditures and gross investment... 2,183.8 (18.62% of GDP)

The current BALANCE OF TRADE is in deficit, which is considered unfavorable.

And at historic highs, it diminishes our domestic economy by over 5% - more than twice the normal variation. This is NOT insignificant.

1 posted on 02/18/2005 9:55:26 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Does anyone know the last time we didn't have a trade deficit?


2 posted on 02/18/2005 9:56:25 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Willie Green

Lol, Willie Green is at it again. You need to learn basic economics Willie.


3 posted on 02/18/2005 9:56:50 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: AAABEST; afraidfortherepublic; A. Pole; arete; billbears; Digger; Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; ...

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4 posted on 02/18/2005 9:58:00 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Willie... please pick up an economics textbook. The imbalance of trade is accounted for in the other parts of the GDP equation, it's not a dead-weight loss to GDP as you claim here.


5 posted on 02/18/2005 9:59:02 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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Willie... please pick up an economics textbook. The imbalance of trade is accounted for in the other parts of the GDP equation, it's not a dead-weight loss to GDP as you claim here.

Thank you. I get tired of trying to explain economics to liberals. Its like trying to explain sex to virgins.

6 posted on 02/18/2005 10:04:43 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: Willie Green; Betaille; mlc9852

Another function of decline is the kind of blind complacency so characteristic of late imperial rot. Deficit ? What deficit ? So long as we have Chinese imports everything is fine.


8 posted on 02/18/2005 10:05:55 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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I heard the same crap when Reagan was President.


9 posted on 02/18/2005 10:07:20 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: An Old Marine

"Thank you. I get tired of trying to explain economics to liberals."

Don't get discouraged old marine. Demagogues like this guy only survive on ignorance, if you educate their audience their appeal dissapears.


10 posted on 02/18/2005 10:07:28 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: mlc9852
Does anyone know the last time we didn't have a trade deficit?


U.S. MERCHANDISE IMPORTS, EXPORTS, AND TRADE DEFICITS: 1940-2003

It looks like it was 1975.
The value of the dollar has declined signficantly since then.

11 posted on 02/18/2005 10:08:22 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: mlc9852

Trade deficits do not mean economic woe, they mean Americans have lots of money to spend, and can afford imported goods.

Where did this concept that Americans must ship out more than they ship in come from?


12 posted on 02/18/2005 10:08:47 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Sam the Sham

You don't understand what a trade deficit means, it's not a deadweight loss. If you pick up an introductory economics textbook and learn what you're talking about you'll realize that you are being hysterical.


13 posted on 02/18/2005 10:09:16 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: Willie Green

We have imports going through the roof but still nobody would consider putting any tariffs on these products. Even a measly one or two percent tariff on selected goods would bring in billions to the Federal Treasury. Let's make some money on this trade deficit!!


14 posted on 02/18/2005 10:10:20 AM PST by cotton1706
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"Where did this concept that Americans must ship out more than they ship in come from?"

It's a useful tool for demagogues on both the left and right, because alot of people don't understand what the numbers mean.


15 posted on 02/18/2005 10:10:35 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: Willie Green

Thank you all for coming. Today, I would like to formally announce, with conclusive analysis conducted by Willie Green supporting me, that the sky is most definitely falling. I'll take a few quetions...

16 posted on 02/18/2005 10:10:52 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Nathan Zachary

My thoughts, too. Is the deficit actually such a bad thing?


17 posted on 02/18/2005 10:11:31 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: cotton1706

That would just raise prices for consumers and business costs for US businesses. Please educate yourself before listening to someone like Willie Green.


18 posted on 02/18/2005 10:11:43 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: KevinDavis
I heard the same crap when Reagan was President.

By all accounts, we should be speaking Japanese right now based on what the doom and gloomers were saying in the 80's.

19 posted on 02/18/2005 10:11:52 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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"My thoughts, too. Is the deficit actually such a bad thing?"

It's not necessarily good or bad. It doesn't mean what this Willie Green guy is implying it means.


20 posted on 02/18/2005 10:12:54 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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