New York, NY, March 24, 2004 … The number of anti-Semitic incidents remained at a consistent and disturbing level in 2003, according to newly released statistics from the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The annual ADL Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents, issued today, counted a total of 1,557 anti-Semitic incidents across the United States in 2003, as compared with 1,559 incidents reported in 2002.
As such, the United States is hardly free of anti-Semitism. In fact, in terms of incidents per capita, according to 2000 figures, you're only a bit better off than we.
To lay into Britain in particular for a problem that appears to be shared by the United States is disingenuous. As for CNN, it appears that you and I haven't been watching the same channel. You can read more about CNN's anti-Israel bias here.
The point is this - we share problems. To sit in judgement of Britain on high and saying things are going to hell in a handbasket when the same problems are knocking at your door is intellectually unsustainable.
Regards, Ivan
New York, NY, March 24, 2004 … The number of anti-Semitic incidents remained at a consistent and disturbing level in 2003, according to newly released statistics from the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The annual ADL Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents, issued today, counted a total of 1,557 anti-Semitic incidents across the United States in 2003, as compared with 1,559 incidents reported in 2002.
1) My point was major increase in number of UK incidents. The statistics you posted show the reverse about the US, no increase. Also the numbers you cite in US are from 2002 and 2003. The worst increase in UK was in 2004.
2) You are comparing absolute numbers not proportions. What percent is the Jewish population of London compared to that of LA or NYC, or UK to US total Jewish population? Your comparison is absurd.
3) You keep changing the topic. You questioned the UK increase in incidents. I verified it. Now you want to say, “so what.”
4) Might I remind you that the US does not have Europe’s sordid past with regards to anti-Semitism. Thus cause for alarm is greater when things escalate in Europe.
If you can not even acknowledge that there has been a large and significant increase in UK and European incidents of anti-Semitism, there is no basis for this discussion. I provided the substantiation and you are equivocating.
As to CNN, your link is from 1998. And the BBC has much worse grades from Jewish watchdog groups recently if you follow such things. In addition the 1998 link is about CNN International which is, as I acknowledged earlier, worse than the US CNN. You get CNN I in UK. Nevertheless BBC is still worse than CNN I. Further are you following the recent “housecleaning at CNN?”
And I already said the UK is not going to “hell in a handbasket.” So stop mischaracterizing what I did say.
Western Europe Jews in the United Kingdom 302,207
North America Jews in the United States 5,914,682
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_by_country
UK stats provided by me:
“According to the Community Security Trust, the body that monitors threats to British Jewry, a total of 532 antisemitic incidents were recorded last year, marking a 42 per cent increase from 2003. “
US stats provided by you:
“The number of anti-Semitic incidents remained at a consistent and disturbing level in 2003, according to newly released statistics from the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The annual ADL Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents, issued today, counted a total of 1,557 anti-Semitic incidents across the United States in 2003, as compared with 1,559 incidents reported in 2002.”
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UK has Six times the rate per these numbers.