[doc30]

Carbon dating used by experts, backs up Bible claim. The same carbon dating that, according to the Bible-believing creationsists, isn't accurate. Can't have it both ways.

[marktwain]

Yes, you must understand that carbon dating is a fraud foisted on a gullible public by evil scientists *except* when it corroborates the Bible. Then it is true, good science.

[tucker93]

If one really understands the physics behind carbon dating, you will find it an inaccurate way of dating. Carbon dating has been shown inaccurate by wrongly dating the Mt. Helen's eruption in the 1980's and even a freshly killed animal. There is a difference between being accurate and being precise. Carbon dating is neither accurate nor precise.

[JFK_Lib]

Carbon dating used by experts, backs up Bible claim. The same carbon dating that, according to the Bible-believing creationsists, isn't accurate. Can't have it both ways.

Umm, OK, sure.

So whats that got to do with the vast majority of Christians who accept carbon dating for *both* cases?

The Bible *is* a reliable historical document in those texts clearly not alegorical or mythical, such as its historical records in Kings, Samuel, Chronicles, Joshua, Judges and Exodus.

It will be interesting to see secularistgs catch up to that without diverting the discussion to OldEarth Creationism as though that were typical of Christian views on Science and biology.

They certainly dont speak for the Roman Catholic Church.

[PatrickHenry]

Carbon dating used by experts, backs up Bible claim. The same carbon dating that, according to the Bible-believing creationsists, isn't accurate. Can't have it both ways.

Oh yeah?

Behold The Ten Laws of Creationism, for use when confronting those horrible eeee-voouuuu-luuuu-shunists:

1. The Law of Evidence: Everything is evidence of creationism; therefore nothing supports evolution.

2. The Law of Conservation of Arguments: Discredited arguments never die, they just get recycled ad infinitum.

3. The Law of Reproducable Results: Anything found in the wild means nothing unless it is reproduced in the lab. Anything done in a lab means nothing about what happens in the wild.

4. The Law of Complexity: That which is complicated is impossible.

5. The Law of Improbability: That which is improbable is impossible.

6. The Law of Impossibility: Life (or consciousness, or free will, etc.) is so complicated (or improbable) that it is obviously impossible . Therefore the existence of life (or consciousness, or free will, etc.) is a miracle.

7. The Law of Completeness: Anything which has not yet been learned (or found, or produced in the lab) will never never be learned (or found, or produced in the lab).

8. The Law of Miracles: If something exists in nature that has not yet been explained or reproduced in the lab, it's a miracle.

9. The Law of Persistence of Miracles: Once something has been declared a miracle, no subsequent natural explanation is possible.

10. The Law of Supernatural Superiority: Whenever two explanations of a phenomenon are presented, one natural and one supernatural, the latter is the better.

And here are some of The Laws of Itelligent Design:

The universe is made for life, therefore ID.
Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.
Anything produced in the lab is proof of Intelligent Design.
Anything not produced in the lab is proof of Intelligent Design.