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Government May Close Airport Towers at Night
NewsMax.com Wires ^ | February 17, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 02/18/2005 6:59:03 AM PST by Thommas

WASHINGTON -- Control towers at some airports could go dark between midnight and 5 a.m. under a cost-cutting plan the government is considering.

The air traffic controllers' union says the move would compromise safety. Lawmakers worry it could lead to service reductions in their states.

Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, said Wednesday that if the Federal Aviation Administration closes the tower in Fairbanks, Alaska, during the early morning hours, it "would be the most stupid suggestion I've ever heard from the bureaucracy."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: airports; budget; faa; natca
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The Federal Air Traffic Control system, long believed to be the best in the world, is quickly being eroded to a shell of its former self. By annually reducing the budget for the FAA, the sereptitious plan to privatize this agency is well under way. The final goal of privitization won't compromise safety, just the freedom of flight for thousands of general public aviators.

The cost cutting measures of Congress for this beleaguered administration will result in the elimination of roughly 200 control towers and the restriction to commercial flights only at the rest. If this sounds alarmist, you are correct; I have witnessed this subtle erosion of service for the past twenty years.

In all honesty, maybe its a good thing. General aviation is a freedom exercised by very few. New pilots for commercial aviation can easily be trained by the military, providing a very professional group for the airlines once these folks leave the Air Force.

Federal Air Traffic Control is going the way of the buggy whip...

1 posted on 02/18/2005 6:59:05 AM PST by Thommas
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To: Thommas

Self serving ping...


2 posted on 02/18/2005 7:01:03 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: Thommas

Privatize...You own an airport, you own and run the control service.


3 posted on 02/18/2005 7:03:54 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Thommas

You can be quite certain that Members of Congress and other PWMs (People Who Matter), will still be accomodated by the Air Traffic Control system...


4 posted on 02/18/2005 7:04:28 AM PST by gridlock (If a man says something while alone in the forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?)
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To: cynicom
True. You also assume the millions of dollars liabiltiy when something goes fatally wrong.

Still, your point is spot on.

5 posted on 02/18/2005 7:06:05 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: Thommas

FAA..retired


6 posted on 02/18/2005 7:06:56 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Thommas

Try BILLIONS.... your private control tower gets involved in an emergency situation with a distressed passenger jet because you are the only folks on the radio... and plane goes down with 585 on board.... Liability isn't going to be "millions".


7 posted on 02/18/2005 7:08:07 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: gridlock

I think it's safe to say that 115 major airports will still be served by an air traffic control system. It's also safe to say that Chicago's Midway and California's Napa airports won't be in that group.


8 posted on 02/18/2005 7:11:46 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: cynicom

FAA..active. :-)


9 posted on 02/18/2005 7:12:49 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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Before we do this, can we shut down all PBS funding, Amtrak subsidies, close the edumacation department, eliminate pork projects........


10 posted on 02/18/2005 7:13:31 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: HamiltonJay
Try BILLIONS.... Liability isn't going to be "millions".

Very likely. This means the municipality that runs the service will enslave its populace for the ensuing thirty years with a massive debt obligation.

11 posted on 02/18/2005 7:16:34 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: 1Old Pro
..can we shut down all PBS funding, Amtrak subsidies, close the edumacation department, eliminate pork projects?

Heavens no! That stuff is important (and has the support of huge Lobbies.)

12 posted on 02/18/2005 7:19:02 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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In all honesty, maybe its a good thing. General aviation is a freedom exercised by very few. New pilots for commercial aviation can easily be trained by the military, providing a very professional group for the airlines once these folks leave the Air Force.

That is not a good answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

13 posted on 02/18/2005 7:19:19 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, pilot, pharmacist, oil field trash. (OIL FIELD TRASH was the most fun))
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That is not a good answer!

Sadly, that is the answer stated and alluded to by the FAA Administration. Policy wonks look to efficiency and a place to trim the corpus where the general public is unaware.

I guarantee that the general public knows as little about the machinations of the FAA as it does about Alpaca wool gathering. ;-).

14 posted on 02/18/2005 7:26:06 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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As a private pilot I try to avoid large airports anyway because of higher fuel costs, high commercial traffic, and ridiculous security measures being applied to small aircraft that aren't a security threat.

If the feds decide to throw user fees at me to use the system I'll just stop using the system and fly MGI (minimum governmental intervention) which I do most of the time anyway. I'll just use the small low use airports and leave the enroute system to the big boys. I have much more fun flying in and out of the smaller GA airports anyway, you meet a better type of people there; the FBO's are more friendly, and overnight tiedown fees are low or non-existant. The only down side to using smaller airports is sometimes rental cars are unavailable, but most of the time one of the friendly local pilots will give me a lift to town if I need one. The GA community is a very tight knit group that is a joy to a member of.

The events of 9/11 reinforced in my mind that aviation is a privilage and not a freedom, and it's a privilage that more people will want to have as commercial travel becomes more and more of a headache.

15 posted on 02/18/2005 7:36:01 AM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: HamiltonJay

Private (ie. contract) control towers provide just as good a service as FAA ones. Our local towered airport is a contract tower, and you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between it and the 'real' FAA towers. In fact, sometimes I'd swear the service is better...


16 posted on 02/18/2005 7:37:11 AM PST by MikeGranby (It's not that simple...)
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To: MikeGranby

I didn't say they were better or worse, I said they open you up to liability, that is all.... Was not a critique or a compliment of their personal abilities.


17 posted on 02/18/2005 7:38:53 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Thommas

"FAA..active. :-)"

I hope they see this and fire you!


18 posted on 02/18/2005 7:43:05 AM PST by dalereed
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To: CarryaBigStick
The hell of it is the aviation fuel taxes and the taxes on tickets for the commercial flights are more than adequate to fund a first class air traffic control system with no additional revenue. The dollars from these taxes go to the general fund and only a fraction of it is spent on aviation.

What is the premium on a ticket now for security? I think it is about ten bucks. Multiply that by the number of people going through DFW LAX JFK ATL OHR HOU etc. every day. Then on top of that the straight tax on the ticket and on top of that the tax on the fuel. The aviation industry both private and commercial is a taxing beast for the government.
19 posted on 02/18/2005 7:45:40 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, pilot, pharmacist, oil field trash. (OIL FIELD TRASH was the most fun))
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To: Thommas

Sherman Adams, Eisenhower's Chief of Staff, knew about vicuna - resigning over a pricey vicuna coat given to him by business interests. Vicuna's are cousins to the alpaca, both have very fine, expensive wool.


20 posted on 02/18/2005 7:49:35 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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