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University of Hawaii Professors Launch Aggressive Fundraising Effort to sponsor Churchill as speaker
Hawaii Reporter ^ | Feb. 17, 2005 | Malia Zimmerman

Posted on 02/17/2005 9:05:19 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion
Let them go!

I am so pissed off about this Churchill affair and all the leftists on our University campuses I'm ready to go back to teaching, when I retire. Hell, I'm 57, great private practice, I'll be retirable at 60 (mandatory retirement at 65, only 8 years). I have half a notion to go back and teach at a local University. The best choice would be near our cabin in Wisconsin (western).

Short story: I was an associate professor of Medicine at Indiana University School of Medicine. It used to be the Harvard of the Midwest, that was years ago. My standard opening lecture of all my classes was as follows: I'm going to stand up here and tell you what you will need to know to be a doctor, you are going to listen and remember. You are in charge of learning, I'm in charge of teaching. One day we are going to unleash you on real sick people, they will trust you to make them well. You will be responsible to learn how to do that, I will be responsible to teach you how to do that. The equation goes thusly...you learn, I teach, patient gets well. If you can't take this treasure that has been given to your heart and soul, get out of your seat and leave this room. What you are about to embark on is an all consuming profession. If you are the least bit scared you need to go and find something else to do with the rest of your life. If you want lots of money, be a plastic surgeon, but don't darken my door. We learn to save lives here, and we are humble doing it.

I used to love to get into some very difficult aspects of my profession. You see your students with that DUH look on there face. That's when I went in high gear. The jacket came off, the tie got pulled down and I started to try anything. Preach, comedy, go back to the chalk board, always looking at those eyes. Then I hit on something, something that hit a nerve. I could see the light in their eyes. Some times one at a time, sometimes all at once. I would say to myself...I got you, you understand. Then I would go home and celebrate. They know, I taught them and they learned.

It's exhausting, but there is nothing else in the world (not even sex) that compares to that feeling.

If you think this was a worthless effort, consider this: I see my former students on a regular basis..medical meetings. They tell me that I gave them a passion for medicine and a passion that burns, and makes them a better doctor.

Ward Churchill is a charlatan and a communist propagandist, he is not, I repeat NOT, a professor. Fire him now.

A real professor teaches, and he teaches hard and long, and he leaves himself out of it. He gives knowledge, he doesn't inject his own ideology. That is against the rules. Churchill has violated that trust with reckless abandon. He's crossed the line. By crossing that line he has brought upon himself the wrath of the people that pay his salary, thus getting fired would be the least of his worries.

41 posted on 02/17/2005 11:07:09 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: Calpernia
Well, well. As an alumnus of UH at Manoa, I'm not surprised. Nor should the administration at Manoa be surprised at not receiving my financial support.

Thanks for the ping, Calpernia. BTW, while attending the UH as a returning vet, lib political science Profs used to ask me if I thought thermo-nuclear war was imminent. I always replied "Absolutely". Ahhh... the memories of the looks on their faces brings a smile.

42 posted on 02/17/2005 11:08:57 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: FairOpinion

University of Hawai‘i at Manoa - Feedback


http://manoa.hawaii.edu/feedback/


43 posted on 02/17/2005 11:14:48 PM PST by kcvl
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To: FairOpinion

Churchill seems to be one of those guys that fried his brains on acid in the early '70's. The whole idea of a white guy pretending to be an indian for thirty years is bizarre. What's more bizarre is that a good many people bought the act for so long. People with real indian heritage must be repulsed by him.


44 posted on 02/17/2005 11:14:55 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: MikeHu

I can already see the headline in tomorrow's Honolulu Advertiser/Star-Bulletin:

Towering Intellect to Lecture: Hawaii Dems to Honor


45 posted on 02/17/2005 11:32:07 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: timydnuc

Excellent post .As a teacher I know JUST what you mean ..Thanx


46 posted on 02/17/2005 11:39:47 PM PST by hineybona
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Ok ..Ive had enought of this as*hole..What can we all here do to nail this guys ass to the wall?


47 posted on 02/17/2005 11:40:29 PM PST by hineybona
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To: orangelobster

Seems like no body minds that he's lied on his resume and job applications > Righ t? Why isn't he fired for that alone ? He's been milking the "Indain " thing for years..Scam artist..I know if I was found to have lied on my credentials where I teach I'd be in one shit load of trouble..Whats his deal? How does he get a pass on this ?


48 posted on 02/17/2005 11:42:36 PM PST by hineybona
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To: FairOpinion

UH Manoa is chock full of leftists.


49 posted on 02/17/2005 11:45:34 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: sarah_f

Thank God it *is* a part of the US.


50 posted on 02/17/2005 11:46:51 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader

It wouldn't be so bad if any of them were competent --
but that's going to cost us extra.


51 posted on 02/17/2005 11:47:42 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: sarah_f
Hawaii is not part of the US. Same with Kalifornia, NY, and Massachusetts.

Then you best log off now. FR and it's owner are in Cali. So I guess according to you, you are participating on a forum that isn't American.

52 posted on 02/17/2005 11:49:32 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: GunnyBob

Did you see the latest on Churchill........


53 posted on 02/18/2005 12:16:59 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: BIGLOOK

>>>Profs used to ask me if I thought thermo-nuclear war was imminent. I always replied "Absolutely".

LOL! You are a tease!

THAT look would be priceless!


54 posted on 02/18/2005 4:45:57 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: timydnuc

Excellent post.

I hope you do go back to teaching, at least part time. I am sure you made a difference for many of your students,and helped them become better doctors, than they would have otherwise.


55 posted on 02/18/2005 7:12:15 AM PST by FairOpinion (It is better to light a candle, than curse the darkness.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
**The Islands of Hawaii were invaded by White male Imperialists. They have desecrated the land of the Native Indians. The Whites have taken these people's land to build their empire. **

Native Indians in Hawaii? White male imperialists? May we please know your source(s) for this information? Thank you.

56 posted on 02/18/2005 9:27:12 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: sarah_f; Bella_Bru
**Hawaii is not part of the US. Same with Kalifornia, NY, and Massachusetts.**

You might want to read up on US History - just a tad.

57 posted on 02/18/2005 9:29:44 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: timydnuc
Excellent post!
58 posted on 02/18/2005 9:31:14 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
No, I was being completely facetious in reference to Ward Churchhill.
and umm
you were ri ri Right
about the Affirmative Action thing,



there I said it.
59 posted on 02/18/2005 9:41:17 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE first-Republican second.)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle


Polynesians in Hawaii. There were Natives, hence Native Americans. Technically, Mexicans are also native Americans.


60 posted on 02/18/2005 9:42:11 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE first-Republican second.)
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