Posted on 02/17/2005 7:00:40 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
Brown is the first of several possible challengers to Sen. Chafee in the 2006 race to make his candidacy official.
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Do the Dems smell blood?
Or is it because Rhode Island is a heavily Dem state and anyone with any name ID is looking at the race?
Anyone?
I know the article is two weeks old, but I don't know much about Matt Brown and hoped you could tell me your opinoin on how this race is shaping up.
Unless the guy's won 3-4 times(John Chafee, Byron Dorgan), I'd say that any state that's 60% for one party, and has the other party as a senator, is in for a tough race.
Chafee at least caucuses with the GOP (which strengthens the majority), so in that sense he's better than an announced 'Rat.
I agree. Given R.I. is one of the bluest of the blue states, I'd rather Chaffee then whatever left-wing wacko they would likely elect. He caucuses with us, and votes with us...well, about 45% of the time. It's better then 0%, especially since nobody else has a chance in hell of winning.
There are a lot of people who are pushing to get rid of the RINOs, but it's only a good idea if the alternative is a conservative. In the case of places like RI, this is an impossibility.
I agree. I'd rather take half a loaf then nothing, and the only realistic alternative in R.I. is nothing.
What happened to your 2/3rds ? See how with these RINOs you have to keep lowering and lowering the bar until you're getting nothing at all. Take a look at Judas Jim Jeffords.
Look, beat up on someone else. I know I'm a conservative. I don't need your approval.
But just since you asked, we are talking about RHODE ISLAND. I.E. the state that went Gore more then ANY OTHER STATE. It went for Gore w/66% of the vote.
If you think a 'real' conservative would have a dog's chance in hell of getting elected to federal office, you are dillusional.
I would not support Chaffee in a Red State. I wouldn't support him in a swing state. I wouldn't even support him in a moderate blue state. But in THE SINGLE DEEPEST BLUE STATE IN THE COUNTRY? Yah, I'll take what I can get.
Cranston Mayor Stephen Laffey is thinking of challenging Chafee in the primary. Laffey is pro-life and has a won crossover voters in his election victories. What is your take on his political strength?
I'm not "beating up on you." I'm merely pointing out that your logic with regards to whom and what can get elected (and what one gets with RINOs) is flawed.
"I know I'm a conservative. I don't need your approval."
I don't have to SAY what ideology I believe in, I demonstrate it with my arguments. For being a conservative, you seem to defend and have a soft spot for those that are strongly opposed to that ideology.
"But just since you asked, we are talking about RHODE ISLAND. I.E. the state that went Gore more then ANY OTHER STATE. It went for Gore w/66% of the vote."
My response to that is a big "so what" ? Republicans can and have won the state, even at the Presidential level, if a strong effort is put into it (and Massachusetts, too). In 1990, Gore won my state with over 70% of the vote in his last Senate race... flash forward to 2000 and he couldn't even carry Tennessee with almost 30% lower a percentage of the vote.
"If you think a 'real' conservative would have a dog's chance in hell of getting elected to federal office, you are dillusional."
Two 'Rat Congressmen in a row, Bob Weygand and Jim Langevin, were elected as pro-lifers. The Governor, Don Carcieri, is a Conservative Republican all around, and he seems to have managed a win, and I think he stands a fairly decent chance at a federal office in the future. Too many times, the reason why a "real Conservative" doesn't get elected in states like this is #1, he/she gets badmouthed in the primary to the point that they either lose or are mortally wounded for a general and/or #2 they don't bother to run at all, leaving voters with no ideological choices. Maybe if we started acting like we CAN with these areas and stopped apologizing for our views, we WILL start to win. What better a place to start then by going right into the so-called 'Rat heartland ?
"I would not support Chaffee in a Red State. I wouldn't support him in a swing state. I wouldn't even support him in a moderate blue state. But in THE SINGLE DEEPEST BLUE STATE IN THE COUNTRY? Yah, I'll take what I can get."
Sometimes it's just too high a price to pay for someone with just an "R" letter after their name when it has no principle behind it. There's a good guy named Steve Laffey, and he's the Mayor of Cranston, and a Conservative Republican who finds no need to apologize for his party label. That's the kind of guy we need to get behind, and you should, too. Stop asking for damnable crumbs when we can have the whole pie.
Chafee is the MSM's favorite Republican. They will run to the rescue Chafee. After all , the liberal media loves to see maverick RINOs give President Bush heartburn.
Can you imagine that pipsqueak having delivered a polar-opposite speech to the 'Rats at their convention (a la Zell) ?
"And Bush won't kill the unborn babies ! (boo !) And Bush won't let Adam and Steve get married ! (boo !) And worst of all, Bush will fire bullets and launch bombs against those poor, peace-loving Muslims !!! He even has the audacity to keep his word ! (boos all around)"
Yup, the 'Rats and their RINO collaborators are now officially in Twilight Zone territory...
Linc should do fine.
Oh, and its pronouncedc"PUH'tuckit"
That honor would go Christy Todd Whitman. She wrote her book based on the assumption that sKerry would win. But with the GOP gains in Congress along with President Bush's re-election, Christy must have been crushed. Nov 2 destroyed the credibility of the book.
And yet she's still going around hawking that piece of garbage. Miss Chrissie was the best thing to ever happen to the NJ 'Rats, keeping the Presidency in the 'Rat column, both Senate seats in the 'Rat column (with the help of her Tony Soprano appointees to the Supremo Court), and eviscerating all the Florio gains. Wow, so it's her party, too ? A few more years of Miss Chrissy and our party's elected officials could've caucused in a phone booth.
Chafee is not well liked by conservatives. He's in a heavy Dem state. I don't think he's too popular in his state overall but I haven't tracked their opinion polls. Yes, they smell blood.
I can't say I'll shed tears if Chafee loses. Nor will I discount he brings at least a measure of a Rep vote tally with him, a full Liberal Dem would provide even less support.
Whether he is vulnerable is dependent on what Dems consider more important. A full "D" to bolster their totals in the Senate as insurance should they lose more "D" Senators than we lose "R". Or. A "R" that will bash Republicans and side with them the majority of the time. Answer that question and you may know whether he wins his Senate race.
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