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Betting on China
Yahoo News ^ | February 17, 2005 | Ted Fishman

Posted on 02/17/2005 4:26:10 PM PST by Golden Eagle

Bill Gates is betting on America's decline and putting his money on China's rise. Or so the Microsoft founder seemed to say last month at the World Economic Forum held in Davos, Switzerland. "I'm short the dollar," he said. "The ol' dollar is going down." At the same meeting, Gates linked his pessimism about the United States to optimism about China. He commended China as the great "change agent" in the world over the next 20 years and praised its "brand-new form of capitalism."

Gates isn't the only titan talking down the dollar and linking it to America's decline. Warren Buffett, Gates' friend and the world's second-richest man, has been bad-mouthing America's financial house and currency for two years. A panic in the greenback could conceivably net both men more than the cumulative lifetime earnings of thousands of their U.S. workers.

If the dollar drops like a rock, the greenback could well lose its prized place as the world's reserve currency. The dollar's special status gives it extra value around the world. Billionaires who talk the dollar down may ultimately cause harm to U.S. workers that far outweighs the growing trend to ship jobs abroad or outsource production to foreign companies. They risk America's global political clout.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billgates; businessleaders; china; chinesecapitalism; chineseprivatesector; cluelessaboutchina; communism; richestunamerican; sellingoutamerica
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Bill Gates is just the latest to sing the praises of China.

It's past time people woke up to the music.

1 posted on 02/17/2005 4:26:12 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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RE: Bill Gates is betting on America's decline and putting his money on China's rise.

1. Confiscate passport.

2. Destroy passport.

3. One way ticket, Seattle to Beijing.


2 posted on 02/17/2005 4:30:32 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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While Gates is obviously bringing much deserved criticism on himself, he's late to the China party. Other "Americans" have been selling us out for there for quite a while. Finally, maybe, hopefully, real Americans are starting to pay attention.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 4:34:10 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

All hail Gates and his "new" capitalism, i.e. slavery.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 4:35:49 PM PST by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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To: Golden Eagle

That sonofabit$$. He made his billions here and now he wants to destroy it. I had to step outside to cool off when I read that. Take his passport? You're to kind to that weasel.


5 posted on 02/17/2005 4:39:07 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Golden Eagle

Bill Gates: Living proof that their is no correlation between money and honor. Guess it has all gone to his head.
I plan to "short" Microsoft.


6 posted on 02/17/2005 4:40:52 PM PST by Shisan (Jalisco no te rajes.)
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Bill Gates is just the latest to sing the praises of China. It's past time people woke up to the music.

Can you please flesh that out? You approve of this?

7 posted on 02/17/2005 4:42:06 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: Mr.Clark

You forgot the /sarcasm tag. It is sickening to refer to the Chicom operation as capitalism, though, isn't it. But fact is, US businessmen are falling all over one another to play in their pit over there, a pit fully owned and operated by the Chicom government. Can you imagine how Reagan would have treated US businesses wanting to shack up with the Soviets? I can, and I see nothing like it going on right now.


8 posted on 02/17/2005 4:42:10 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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In the long run, talking down the dollar would be meaningless unless there was something to the talk. If there is, blaming them is pointless.


9 posted on 02/17/2005 4:43:03 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Golden Eagle

Isnt that how the Hungarian born socialist scumbag George Soros made all of his money, by talking down currencies in certain countries? After all, he was indicted for it in France.


10 posted on 02/17/2005 4:43:21 PM PST by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Golden Eagle

A fool is born everyday.

You can't trust any figures coming out of China.

http://www.tothepointnews.com/article.php?id=273&i=8c2a56c1fbfbd12d4e5861de2815b242

and

http://www.tothepointnews.com/article.php?id=608&i=8c2a56c1fbfbd12d4e5861de2815b242


11 posted on 02/17/2005 4:43:38 PM PST by captain_dave
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I'm sickened by what's happening to America. Gates has previously been on record criticizing communism, but now he's following the lead of countless others to the Chicom feeding trough in a mad frenzy. At this rate, there's no end in sight.
12 posted on 02/17/2005 4:45:19 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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In the long run, talking down the dollar would be meaningless unless there was something to the talk. If there is, blaming them is pointless.

I'm sure that's what the British thought before Soros drove the British pound into the ground.

13 posted on 02/17/2005 4:45:24 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Golden Eagle

Anyone who wants to read a good treatment of this phenomenon should read Who Are We? by Samuel Huntington. The mega elite of this country are becoming more and more transnational, caring little about where they actually started out. Hence the corporate support for every open border initiative they can think of.


14 posted on 02/17/2005 4:46:38 PM PST by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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If Bill Gates is short the dollar and announcing it publicly, it is almost certain that we are in for a sustained dollar rally.


15 posted on 02/17/2005 4:47:15 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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In the long run, talking down the dollar would be meaningless unless there was something to the talk. If there is, blaming them is pointless.

I disagree. Gates and Buffet are the two wealthiest Americans. The Walton family are some of the wealthiest Americans. Huge US corporations are abandoning investment in the US, and instead investing in China. It's infested everywhere, even FR. I saw a poster here not long ago recommening "the china fund". Said he was making a killing. Unfortunately, there will be a price to pay. At this rate, before this generation is gone.

16 posted on 02/17/2005 4:50:37 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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I'm sickened by what's happening to America. Gates has previously been on record criticizing communism, but now he's following the lead of countless others to the Chicom feeding trough in a mad frenzy. At this rate, there's no end in sight.

Thanks. I also think the dollar will have problems due to huge trade deficits and will be losing reserve currency status bit by bit. But I'm just a little guy with an opinion. If I were a well known public figure, never in a million years would I short America and short the dollar the way Gates and Buffet are doing. It's disgraceful and irresponsible.
17 posted on 02/17/2005 4:51:22 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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I also think the dollar will have problems due to huge trade deficits and will be losing reserve currency status bit by bit. But I'm just a little guy with an opinion. If I were a well known public figure, never in a million years would I short America and short the dollar the way Gates and Buffet are doing. It's disgraceful and irresponsible.

I totally agree. Unfortunately, things are going to get worse, before they even stand a chance to get better. From today:

Dollar Falls as Greenspan Fails to Allay Concern About Deficit

18 posted on 02/17/2005 4:57:02 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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Gates linked his pessimism about the United States to optimism about China

This must be a misprint for "Japan". Oh, no, silly me -- that was 15 years ago.

19 posted on 02/17/2005 4:58:25 PM PST by expatpat
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If Bill Gates is short the dollar and announcing it publicly, it is almost certain that we are in for a sustained dollar rally.

This is the remark I was looking for. If you had not made it, I would have.

Nitwit talk like this is a sure portent of a rally. I hope Gates has shorted the Dollar big time. His short covering will help the rally along.

20 posted on 02/17/2005 5:01:36 PM PST by John Valentine
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