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In Six Days (A Biology PHD looks at Evolution)
In Six Days ^ | 02/17/05 | Timothy G. Standish, PHD biology

Posted on 02/17/2005 3:10:32 PM PST by DannyTN

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1 posted on 02/17/2005 3:10:37 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: PatrickHenry; bondserv; Dataman; RadioAstronomer; Elsie; Stultis


2 posted on 02/17/2005 3:11:36 PM PST by DannyTN
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I don't believe in Evolution at all, I only believe in Creation. But I don't know that days have always been limited to 24 hours, or that an hour has always been limited to 60 minutes. God may have changed all that when He created life.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 3:15:27 PM PST by buffyt (It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.)
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Obviously, there is much physical evidence to dispute the argument that God created the universe in six days some 6,000 years ago. The religious response to that seems to be that God created a "mature" universe that looks to us like it is billions of years old when in fact it is not.

My question, then, is why would God try to trick us like that? Seems a bit cruel to me, and conflicts with my understanding of a God who loves those he created in his image. So, to the extent one believes that God had a hand in creating the universe, it seems one must acknowledge that the six days mentioned in Genesis are a metaphor for the eons of time that have passed since creation.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 3:19:07 PM PST by nyg4168
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'The religious response to that seems to be that God created a "mature" universe that looks to us like it is billions of years old when in fact it is not. "

That's not the only religious response. I think we have misinterpreted the data and when rightly understood it won't show billions of years old at all.

5 posted on 02/17/2005 3:23:47 PM PST by DannyTN
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Evolution: "An elaborate intellectual edifice built on very few facts"


6 posted on 02/17/2005 3:24:55 PM PST by keithtoo (Defeat Le' Partie' Democratique)
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Dr. Standish is associate professor of biology

I suppose he will do until they can get somebody smart on the project. Maybe somebody who's not stymied by complicated stuff like subtraction, addition's tricky pal.

7 posted on 02/17/2005 3:26:19 PM PST by AmishDude
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"I don't believe in Evolution at all"

You had me going there-- until I spotted the capital "E".  So you agree that there are things that 'evolve'.  When ever I run into someone who calls hisself an 'athiest' I usually say "I don't believe in the the same god that you don't believe in.   So I can confidently say I don't believe in "Evolution" but I believe in "evolution".

Of course, if you start asking me to define my terms then you're making life difficult for me. ;-)

8 posted on 02/17/2005 3:27:02 PM PST by expat_panama
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If it the evidence for God's existence took no effort to see and were completely un-rationalizable, then one would be insane to not follow the Judeo-Christian religion's every command, and to the T.

What would the challenge be in that?


9 posted on 02/17/2005 3:28:48 PM PST by jdhighness
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I don't believe in Evolution at all until they can explain why a man has nipples I don't either.
10 posted on 02/17/2005 3:30:25 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: DannyTN

I'm not a scientist who works in this field, but I just can't believe that the thousands of people who do this science every day (and the thousands who have done it in the past) can all be wrong. Dinosaurs and humans did not co-exist. Carbon dating does tell us how old organic material is. Light travels at a set speed, and millions of years must have passed for us to see starts that are millions of light years away. I'm not saying that humans know everything, but in so many fields and in so many ways, the universe demonstrates to us that is much older than a literal reading of the Bible would have us believe.


11 posted on 02/17/2005 3:31:52 PM PST by nyg4168
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Andrews University is a 7th Day Adventist school, at least it was 30 years ago when I visited there.

Their Science Program was pathetic. I wonder if it has evolved in 30 years? Their student body hasn't grown much, so I doubt it. Anybody been there lately?


12 posted on 02/17/2005 3:34:07 PM PST by furball4paws (It's not the cough that carried him off - it's the coffin they carried him off in (O. Nash -I think))
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Here's a guy pursuing a PhD (and so has, presumably, already been exposed to advanced study in grad school) and he expects to discover the essential truths of his field from a popular science book?!?

Wow! His bulb must burn mighty dim. Either that or he's simply lying about his "smug" expectations on opening Dawkins' book to make his "witness" more appealing to the sheeple.

13 posted on 02/17/2005 3:34:44 PM PST by Stultis
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But once each metaphor was stripped aside, the core ideas did not support the idea that natural selection could account for the origin of life and the meaningful complexity of organisms.

Without all the psycho-babble this is exactly what ID is stating. The more into the mircobial world we go the more pronounced that life is not random or by chance.

14 posted on 02/17/2005 3:35:32 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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I suppose the documeted evidence of rocks that formed during the mt. st. helens erruption and are less than 25 years old and have been dated at 220,000 years old might have something to do with it


15 posted on 02/17/2005 3:36:26 PM PST by antihannityguy
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That's not the only religious response. I think we have misinterpreted the data and when rightly understood it won't show billions of years old at all.

Bingo! We have a winner!

16 posted on 02/17/2005 3:37:28 PM PST by D Rider
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That fact is conveniently overlooked. Glad to see someone else pointing that out.
17 posted on 02/17/2005 3:37:30 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: jdhighness
"What would the challenge be in that( follow the Judeo-Christian religion's every command)?"

it's very simple...

Micah 6:8 - He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

The rest of the Bible is teaching us how to do that. It's simple but nobody has done it.

18 posted on 02/17/2005 3:38:10 PM PST by DannyTN
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How about that the lava flows at the top of the Grand Canyon have been dated older than those at the bottom?....(Add your favorite example below)


19 posted on 02/17/2005 3:40:29 PM PST by D Rider
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To: DannyTN

What data do you feel we have misinterpreted?


20 posted on 02/17/2005 3:41:41 PM PST by FactsMatter (:))
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