Republicans Push for New Nuke Requirement [Nuclear bunker-buster]

Global Security Newswire ^ | 2/17/2005 | David Ruppe

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

“The North Koreans were very intrigued by the notion that we were looking to pursue a deep-earth penetrator to get at their underground complexes,” he said during yesterday’s briefing.

Kim Jong-Il, take note.

[Sax]

"U.S. Representative Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) suggested that North Korean officials during his recent visit to Pyongyang expressed concern about the United States obtaining a more capable nuclear earth penetrator. "

Deterrant to N.Korea. They will soon be unable to hide underground. HAARP can see you underground, and bunker busting nukes can kill you. Once they realize their facilities are about as safe as the fort you used to make with your mom's sofa cushions we can then ask them "Now, are you ready to play nice?"

[Mr.Clark]

David Hobson is an absolute fool.

[samtheman]

“Could you please tell me directly if there’s a military need for this robust nuclear earth penetrator?” asked Representative Terry Everett (R-Ala.) at a Defense Department budget hearing before the House Armed Services Committee.

I suppose the question needs to be asked...if you're dumb as a bag of hammers.

[groovejedi]

From the looks of it, HAARP can do more than see you underground, in fact it looks to lil-o-me that bunker busters arn't needed with HAARP in our corner.

[Sax]

Ah, HAARP - one of my guilty pleasures. Somewhere between being able to crack the earth in half and merely studying the Aurora Borealis, the truth lies. And since it brings out the conspiracy theory guys like ants to a picnic it's a barrel o' fun too!

Tinfoil hats ON!!

[Sergio]

Isn't it true that during the last series of live fire nuclear tests conducted by the U.S., the device was buried underground to minimize the radiation at the surface or in the atmosphere?

If so, how's this for a reason.

The nuclear penetrator gives us a nuclear option that achieves our military objectives with little or no radiation to the surrounding populace. Think of it as finally having "surgical precision" with nukes.

Best Regards

Sergio

[Sax]

And when it's all over they can grow 50lb carrots there!

I wouldn't imagine we would pop even an underground nuke without an attempted nuke strike on ourselves or an ally first - and then the gloves may come off anyway.

But you're right - we would probably be less concerned with tattooing an area with multiple strikes knowing that most fallout would be contained.

[Sergio]

And when it's all over they can grow 50lb carrots there!

LOL!!!

You could also fill the resulting depression in the ground with water and have 250lb catfish!

This ought to give the Chinese and Russians the willies as they buried all their command and control stuff deep enough to resist an air burst. This completely changes the rules.

I say we should be the firstest with the mostest.

Best Regards

Sergio

[Sax]

Notice to all burrowing rodents:

Farmer McGregor is working with some new tools. You've been warned.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Gee. Is this anything like Dr. Science's "magic mole machine" ?

[Sergio]

Ok, now you guys are just getting silly. I like silly. I say that there is nothing more fun than the judicious use of high explosives.

Thanks to you both for the laughs.

Best Regards

Sergio

[Sax]

Cheers!

[Final Authority]

I believe nuclear tests are performed in drilled tunnels between 700 and 1500 feet deep. They might be at angles to the surface but the test depth is based on the expected yield. The tunnels have all sorts of timed doors and experiments to evaluate the test and test material and electrical technology. I do not think that a bunker buster will drill deep enough to provide for containment of the radioactive residue of a blast. It certainly will make a big hole however.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Congressional opponents and independent critics of the effort have argued that no weapon is likely to plow deep enough to significantly contain a blast; that such a weapon would be unlikely to be used because it would create massive surface destruction and fallout on populated areas; and that the program undermines efforts to strengthen international nonproliferation cooperation.

err....then you've already conducted a study. May we have a copy? It sure would save us a lot of time and money.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Cobalt Thorium G, then ?

[Sax]

Hmmm, Cobalt Thorium G? Now what's the half-life on something like that...

[Eric in the Ozarks]

'dja ever notice you never see Dr. Strangelove and George Soros in the same room together ?

[Sax]

Hmmm, and I think I've seen Soros surpressing a Seig Heil! too. You might be on to something.