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To: squirt-gun

I know a guy that has been a machinist for 25 years.
He is proficient on CNC maching and has kept up with technology.
However he is 58 years old and no one wants to hire him because of his age (the company he worked for went out of business).

Also the cnc machine jobs are being sent overseas and the ones being offered here now in the states are paying $10 hour. Many machinist jobs in my area start out at $8 hour.

Why go to school for this profession anymore for $8-10 hour?


35 posted on 02/17/2005 10:20:45 AM PST by superiorslots
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To: superiorslots

you can't explain that basic concept to the free traders here - they just do not understand how globalism is depressing US wages, and toss in the chinese currency peg which we seem unwilling to fight to have them drop, and its just makes no sense for americans to even consider those professions any more. you can make far more money being a waiter at a busy restaurant.


42 posted on 02/17/2005 10:44:45 AM PST by oceanview
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To: superiorslots

You know a guy, huh? Well that settles it.


45 posted on 02/17/2005 10:51:51 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: superiorslots
Re # 35... Why go to school for this profession anymore for $8-10 hour?

True.

I am an old guy who was engaged in scientific work for national defense. As I see it now, as the complexity of life increases, the demand for various jobs change.....sometimes up and sometimes down.

When I was a young man, a machinist was viewed as a very highly skilled, relatively highly paid job in much demand from tool making to crafting complex shapes. Many of the machinists started as an apprentice and as their skills improved, so did their stature....But! Enter robots..enter skilled and low paying offshore labor for the same needs...and exit many areas of demand for the machinist (e.g. remember what happened to the blacksmith making horseshoes).

Many people of long ago were self trained or lightly trained in a variety of occupations without any advanced education. Abe Lincoln never saw third grade and learned how to read on his own, taught himself the law and became a renowned lawyer and then president......try that today!!!Too many bureaucratic hurdles.

Have a great day and I wish you well.

53 posted on 02/17/2005 12:52:30 PM PST by squirt-gun
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To: superiorslots
Re # 35... Why go to school for this profession anymore for $8-10 hour?

True.

I am an old guy who was engaged in scientific work for national defense. As I see it now, as the complexity of life increases, the demand for various jobs change.....sometimes up and sometimes down.

When I was a young man, a machinist was viewed as a very highly skilled, relatively highly paid job in much demand from tool making to crafting complex shapes. Many of the machinists started as an apprentice and as their skills improved, so did their stature....But! Enter robots..enter skilled and low paying offshore labor for the same needs...and exit many areas of demand for the machinist (e.g. remember what happened to the blacksmith making horseshoes).

Many people of long ago were self trained or lightly trained in a variety of occupations without any advanced education. Abe Lincoln never saw third grade and learned how to read on his own, taught himself the law and became a renowned lawyer and then president......try that today!!!Too many bureaucratic hurdles.

Have a great day and I wish you well.

54 posted on 02/17/2005 12:53:34 PM PST by squirt-gun
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