Posted on 02/16/2005 9:11:41 PM PST by quidnunc
There is a scene in Monsters Ball that requires warning, too. I saw that without knowing about it about 2 weeks after an ex-boyfriend committed suicide.
Million Dollar Baby is a movie about the sanctity of life...of course the religious conservatives don't like it...
So please excuse me if I get a little touchy when it is suggested that people ought to just let that post-injury depression take them wherever it may.
My point is, Beavis, that people with spinal cord injuries almost always suffer clinical depression as a result. Anyone who claims to care about them would help them exit that depression before allowing them to make such, well, permanent decisions such as taking their lives. And the funny thing is, once they do exit that depression---as the vast majority of them do---they are glad they didn't make such a stupid move.
It's not unlike taking the keys from someone who's had too much to drink. If they have any sense at all they'll thank you when they sober up.
Ummm... don't you go to the movies to be told a story you DON'T know the ending to? If I'm hearing the majority of you correctly - once you don't like what the story is about, you ... what? Demand Eastwood on a skewer? Want to see how much public commotion you can stir? What? Seems Medved wants to see how much power he has to rile you up... evidently that's a lot.
It makes me think maybe you're all much younger than me. When I was a kid, we didn't have vcr's to play that same stupid cartoon movie 300 times. Endings were surprises. We didn't "vet" movies, for chrissakes. And if something was disturbing or unsettling, it was a MOVIE. NOT REAL LIFE.
I don't enjoy a strong moral message in the movies I watch, and I'd probably walk away from this saying "I wish they didn't feel they had to push an agenda" or something... but I wouldn't be making a federal case about it, either. Get thee a grip.
Geez.
Can't believe how much attention is being paid to this simple little tearjerker. And in reference to Michael Medved's example from Shakespeare...Opheila didn't kill herself she lost her mind and drowned. A better example would have been Romeo and Juliet or Antony and Cleopatra. Or Othello.
Seriously, I wouldn't see it because I don't like suicide movies. If somebody wants to make them and see them, it's their business, just not my cup of tea.
Medved's problem with the movie was not the movie, it was the false advertising used to market it. It was marketed as "Rocky". Had it been marketed with a theme like "The toughest fights aren't in the ring", and hints been given of the sombre nature of the movie, Medved probably would have just said, this is a dark movie, so be warned. It would have been much the same if A Clockwork Orange had been marketed as a zany romp, similar to Dumb and Dumber.
I heard about some guy in a wheelchair that started a conservative web site...
The trailers for A Clockwork Orange did market it as a zany romp.
Excellent. Helen, Richard Kimball's idea about how this movie could have been marketed honestly is far more constructive than I've been able to offer; please consider.
Here's the thing though...I spoke to a friend who saw the movie and is a nurse...the paralysis the character had would have taken all her limbs and eventually her organs would start to fail. She was doomed.
Aren't we all.
P@B - Reflect for a moment on the infamous 'slapping' incident. What PO'd the General the most about that? It was the fact that the man did not face his own fears and instead chose a section eight as an escape route.
It takes far more courage to live with adversity, then it does to die because of it.
There, on the pendent boughs her coronet weeds
Clambering to hang, an envious sliver broke;
When down her weedy trophies and herself
Fell in the weeping brook. Her clothes spread wide;
And, mermaid-like, awhile they bore her up:
Which time she chanted snatches of old tunes;
As one incapable of her own distress,
Or like a creature native and indued
Unto that element: but long it could not be
Till that her garments, heavy with their drink,
Pull'd the poor wretch from her melodious lay
To muddy death.
No struggle, no cries for help: she floated for a time and sang bits of old songs, then slowly sank below the surface and was gone. As Gertude described her: "poor wretch".
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