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We Lose If LOST Wins (UN Law of the Sea Treaty)
The New American ^ | 06.14.04 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 02/16/2005 5:21:47 PM PST by Coleus

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To: pbrown
Richard Lugar twenty some years ago use to be a descent senator. I don't know if it's the power lust of D.C. that got to him or if it's senility. Either way he has transformed into a self-serving clown.

I really wish from day one our Founding Fathers instituted term limits. I'm sure it would have caused some problems but in the long run it would have solved many more.

21 posted on 02/16/2005 6:06:33 PM PST by lizma
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To: SuzyQue

Prominently behind LOST, Senator Lugar.


22 posted on 02/16/2005 6:07:42 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SuzyQue
Indiana residents, contact your Globalist Republican Senator

Richard G. Lugar, United States Senator for Indiana

Cheryl Chumley -- UN Sea Treaty Supporters Feel the Heat

23 posted on 02/16/2005 6:08:18 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

You can read more about LOST including the senate foreign relations committee report at Sen Dick Lugar (R. Indiana) site:
http://lugar.senate.gov/sfrc/sea.html

“On February 25, 2004, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 19-0 to send the resolution of ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty to the full Senate for advice and consent. The Bush Administration said on February 7, 2002, that there is an “urgent need for Senate approval” of the Law of the Sea Treaty.

“The basic tenets of the treaty have been U.S. policy since first enunciated by President Reagan in 1982. Over the next dozen years the U.S. won in negotiations on the questionable aspects of the treaty, and signed on in 1994. The details are in the President's Message transmitting the treaty to the Senate that may be viewed using Adobe Reader. In October 2003, Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Dick Lugar held two comprehensive hearings on the treaty. The full transcripts of those hearings are part of the 187-page committee report that may be viewed using Adobe Reader. “


24 posted on 02/16/2005 6:13:39 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Coleus
I'll be sure to write letters to my Senators: Boxer and Feinstein. :-(

If Bill Frist wants to be President, he'd better pay attention.

25 posted on 02/16/2005 6:14:53 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: lizma
I'm all for term limits. It would cut down on special interest and corruption.

They are empowered with more power than we want them to have. They are drunk with it.

And their quest for even more, knows no bounds.

The thirst and lust for power has Lugar.

26 posted on 02/16/2005 6:15:59 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I think I'll repeat myself:

The big issue with LOST isn't about the ocean; it's about land use control.

This global bureaucracy will justify control of land use to "protect" the marine environment. It isn't hard to see. Many oceanic species breed in estuaries within the United States. Estuarine health isn't doing very well for a number of reasons (many of which politicized science will conveniently miss). The estuaries are fed by rivers. The rivers are lined with cities.

Marine sanctuaries and global biospheres are model for what is planned for LOST. If all we accomplish is to alter the treaty to gain protection for our military, we will have missed the point.

LOST is a straitjacket fully capable of crippling this nation (which certainly affects its ability to defend itself). That the White House says it knows nothing about it belies the fact that, according to the email I get from ALRA, the White House and Chuck Hagel are the instigators in pushing this treaty through in the dark of night after the Reagan Administration had rejected it out of hand.


27 posted on 02/16/2005 6:17:09 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Coleus

...Thanks to Liz
28 posted on 02/16/2005 6:22:58 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was a 'war hero' too... before he became a TRAITOR!)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Good one, Seadog Bytes!


29 posted on 02/16/2005 6:27:48 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbrown

Makes me think some of my tinfoil hat wearing friends are correct about Bush when I see he will sign the treaty.


30 posted on 02/16/2005 6:29:08 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Carry_Okie
For people who don't understand what LOST and agenda 21 is...it's hard to explain in a few words exactly what is at stake. America as we know it will be no more.

The nexus of it is the UN. It is so twisted and intertwined with roads leading in all directions so as to confuse anyone trying to disect it. But disect it people can...if they have the guts to follow it through to where it ends up.

31 posted on 02/16/2005 6:29:46 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: satchmodog9
This and his amnesty program is where we part company. God Bless Dubya, but I pray he thinks twice before signing away Americas sovenerity....piecemeal.
32 posted on 02/16/2005 6:32:22 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Coleus

Tell Condi that...in her confirmation she was asked if LOST would be ratified....CONDI SAID YES!!!


33 posted on 02/16/2005 6:34:45 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Carry_Okie
LBJ signed the United Nations' World Heritage Treaty, a treaty that creates "World Heritage Sites and Biosphere Reserves." These landmarks have been under U.N. mandate since 1972 and 68 percent of all U.S. national parks, monuments and preserves have been designated as World Heritage Sites.

This includes the Statue of Liberty, Thomas Jefferson's home at Monticello, the Washington Monument, the Brooklyn Bridge, Yellowstone National Park, Yosemite, the Florida Everglades and the Grand Canyon - to name just a few.

It boils down to controlling us or most likely profiting from us. It's disgusting.

If Bush approves this, we would deserve Hitlery. If we have become so apathetic to allow conservatives to bow to tyranny, we need a wake-up call. Maybe Hill can jolt America more than 9-11. I pray we never have to find out.

34 posted on 02/16/2005 6:44:26 PM PST by lizma
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To: lizma
Their having the Liberty Bell sticks in my craw as well.

How ass-backwards is that? Our symbols of freedom, are in the hands of the very people who are taking our freedoms.

It defies logic, rhyme and reason.

35 posted on 02/16/2005 6:51:33 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Our governments in this country at all levels are taking our freedoms. We are all fools for thinking we are free. Just try not paying your property tax for a year or two.


36 posted on 02/16/2005 6:58:05 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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For people who don't understand what LOST and agenda 21 is...it's hard to explain in a few words exactly what is at stake. America as we know it will be no more.

You're telling me?

37 posted on 02/16/2005 6:59:05 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Still Thinking

"Some elements of the world community are without a doubt worthy of contempt."

I would go further and state the majority are without a doubt worthy of contempt. Most would like nothing better than to end the sovereignty of the United States and begin the income redistribution to the UN.


38 posted on 02/16/2005 7:05:50 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: satchmodog9
We can take comfort in the fact that they can't put us all in jail. If we could stage a one day shut-down in this country, that would get our elected leaders attention.

Then we can tell them what we want. That's why we elected them in the first place, to do our bidding, something they have forgotten.

39 posted on 02/16/2005 7:06:06 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

"None of us can figure out why they support it. At first Bush was against it, but not now."

If I had to venture a guess, it's the administrations way of trying to mend the "fences" broken due to the Iraq war and really, it doesn't matter what their reasons. This will be a very bad thing for us all if signed.


40 posted on 02/16/2005 7:08:09 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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