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Russian Decision to Sell Missiles to Syrians 'Wrong Deal' At 'Wrong Time'
Cybercast News Service ^ | February 16, 2005 | Julie Stahl

Posted on 02/16/2005 12:18:22 PM PST by Bald Eagle777

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This is getting more interesting by the day.
1 posted on 02/16/2005 12:18:29 PM PST by Bald Eagle777
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To: Bald Eagle777

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-18.htm


2 posted on 02/16/2005 12:20:20 PM PST by Bald Eagle777 (John Kerry is a liberal &Marxist sympathizer. Pals:Ortega, V.C.,Castro, Sandanista remnants, etc.)
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,,, it's time for some venture capital for the Russian Mafia's expansion to be advanced from Tel Aviv.


3 posted on 02/16/2005 12:23:02 PM PST by shaggy eel
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Bean hearing about a lotta Russian weapons' deals lately. .....to Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela.

North Korea next? ......Cuba?

4 posted on 02/16/2005 12:28:02 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Am I mistaken or didn't Pres. Bush recently ask Putin via some news network, that he din't want this sale to take place?


5 posted on 02/16/2005 12:28:24 PM PST by groovejedi
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To: Bald Eagle777
Moscow is keen on reestablishing its influence in the Middle East

It's the 21st century! Selling weapons to tinpot dictators is, like, so yesterday!

If you want influence in the region, help the societies move forward out of barbarism. They will thank you for it later.

6 posted on 02/16/2005 12:35:29 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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"The Russian Defense Ministry denied on Wednesday that it intended to sell the shoulder-fired missiles to Syria."

Nobody seems interested in that line. I find it reassuring. Must just be me.

7 posted on 02/16/2005 12:42:48 PM PST by mikhailovich
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"Selling weapons to tinpot dictators is, like, so yesterday!"

Which countries do you suggest they sell them to?

8 posted on 02/16/2005 12:44:17 PM PST by mikhailovich
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no one.


9 posted on 02/16/2005 12:56:17 PM PST by Almondjoy
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Russia needs hard cash and their arms exports are lucrative. Being a capitalist society makes it even easier for them to justify.

The question isn't "Why are they selling them when we asked them not to" the question is "How do we make it more advantageous/profitable to them not to..."


10 posted on 02/16/2005 1:44:05 PM PST by Androcles
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Russia needs hard cash and their arms exports are lucrative. Being a capitalist society makes it even easier for them to justify.

The question isn't "Why are they selling them when we asked them not to" the question is "How do we make it more advantageous/profitable to them not to..."


11 posted on 02/16/2005 1:44:08 PM PST by Androcles
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To: Androcles

Apologies for the double post...


12 posted on 02/16/2005 1:45:37 PM PST by Androcles
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To: Bald Eagle777

Then maybe Stingers for the Chechnyans?


13 posted on 02/16/2005 1:56:39 PM PST by Always Independent
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The Stinger idea could be tricky. We did that in Afghanistan after the 'short' little Russian 'hiking trip' that started in 1979 ... Look where we are now. (former proxies are now the Opfor).. Once exported, miscellaneous "items" are harder to control once in play.

However, the concept of putting "R" on notice is sound.

In my analysis, for starters, we should have some custom-tailored information warfare treats cooked up for them to eat and maybe an appropriate heaping plateful of symmetrical (manageable/managed assets) proxy strategies. Hmmmmm....

Is Russia playing nice, or are they just like the mischievous brat that just took out some windows with a sling shot and promptly shot the cat with a squirt gun and says "na ah!" when confronted?

They are definitely playing a Dangerous Game and, yes, we need to find ways to respond appropriately if they don’t cut the BS.


14 posted on 02/16/2005 2:20:46 PM PST by Bald Eagle777 (John Kerry is a liberal &Marxist sympathizer. Pals:Ortega, V.C.,Castro, Sandanista remnants, etc.)
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Agree. We do need to explore our options. THhey want influence in the mideast. Maybe they should get on the side of creating a stable mideast instead of causing trouble.


15 posted on 02/16/2005 4:10:27 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Androcles

Androcles wrote:
The question isn't "Why are they selling them when we asked them not to" the question is "How do we make it more advantageous/profitable to them not to..."

--> How about we put that new "Smart gun" technology where the missile will only fire reliably 90% of the time, and only useable by the operator that still has all 5 fingers intact and their hand hasn't been altered in the way they pull the trigger...


16 posted on 02/16/2005 7:19:33 PM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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Exactly...there's the nice advantages and the nasty advantages. They're all good...


17 posted on 02/16/2005 7:43:19 PM PST by Androcles
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To: Bald Eagle777

Russia is being foolish. They are looking at short term gain and long term loss. If they were on the right side of the issue, they could have access to a large market of new democracies seeking to arm their new armies. Instead, they want to arm terrorists. Wonder how they'd like it if we armed Chechnya?


18 posted on 02/16/2005 7:51:20 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Bald Eagle777

We need to let the Russians know that if they continue down this road we will be selling F-16s and missles to the Chechnyans and Georgians as well as expediting Ukraine into NATO. Two can play this game.


19 posted on 02/16/2005 7:54:25 PM PST by Blast_Master
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To: ClearCase_guy
If you want influence in the region, help the societies move forward out of barbarism.

Russian concept of influence is to direct the local barbarism in the right direction - in this case, against Israel as an ally of Russia's perceived archenemy. America.

20 posted on 02/16/2005 10:14:36 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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