[rockabyebaby]

>>>In fact, the past was more sordid, grubby and immodest than anything we can now imagine<<<

On what planet did you witness the sordid, grubby and immodest past?

[68skylark]

My views are at post #23.

[Nov3]

On what planet did you witness the sordid, grubby and immodest past?

History and Victoria have sanitized what the massive influx of immigration wrought. The ghettos of the large American cities in the 19 century were not a modest place.