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To: ArGee
There's a line from the movie "Staying Alive" that you remind me of. A woman looks at Tony and says, "Guys like you aren't relationships. They're exercise."

I don't personally feel that way and I'll give you a quick anecdote that I think proves it. I attended a friend's bachelor party. We're not a wild crowd and I was married at the time so I didn't expect to much wild to happen (the bachelor party I arranged for another friend included a trip to a comedy club--that was it) but the friend's brother got a stripper. Without going into too many details (they really aren't that interesting), the two women were almost raped at the bachelor party they were at before the one for my friend. One eventually did her thing because we were a nice enough group (none of my friends would have demanded anything from them). I was the one who cared enough at the end of the night to lead them in my car to the highway so they could get home. In fact, it's because I can't help but thinking of strippers as anything but human beings -- daughters, sisters, mothers -- that I get little-to-no enjoyment out of strippers.

And, yes, I find the things that other say about women embarassing. In fact, I find men talking about their wives particularly distasteful. One day, a friend caught his wife talking to another friend's wife about their sex life and he confronted them. They replied, "Well you men talk about this stuff behind our backs!" He repliled, "No we don't!" My friends don't, which is why they are my friends, but plenty of other men that I've run into at work and elsewhere sure do.

254 posted on 02/16/2005 11:55:27 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
plenty of other men that I've run into at work and elsewhere sure do.

Really? I don't think men talk about much of anything of substance, with other men.

The Patriots sure are going to tough next year, aren't they? ;-)

Well, of course, I discuss substantive things with my confessor, who's a man (of course), and I guess with a few of my other friends ... so maybe that's just a stereotype.

256 posted on 02/16/2005 12:03:37 PM PST by Campion
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To: Question_Assumptions
I don't personally feel that way

I didn't presume you did. It was your talk about men who turn women into sex toys that made me think of the line.

Your comment about predators was spot-on. When the women circle the floor of a strip club selling dances, which are the predators and which are the prey?

<ahem>Not that I have any current experience with the subject, mind you.

Shalom.

259 posted on 02/16/2005 12:20:39 PM PST by ArGee (Having homosexual sex makes as much sense as drinking beer through your a$$.)
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To: Question_Assumptions

You sound very much like my husband. I have no fear of ever being embarrassed by something that he had said to someone else "out of school" so to speak. And the reverse is true as well.


260 posted on 02/16/2005 12:21:17 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: Question_Assumptions
And, yes, I find the things that other say about women embarassing. In fact, I find men talking about their wives particularly distasteful. One day, a friend caught his wife talking to another friend's wife about their sex life and he confronted them. They replied, "Well you men talk about this stuff behind our backs!" He repliled, "No we don't!" My friends don't, which is why they are my friends, but plenty of other men that I've run into at work and elsewhere sure do.

Married men don't talk about sex with their wives behind their wives' backs. Everyone knows the most effective oral anti-aphrodisiac for women is wedding cake.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Shalom.

261 posted on 02/16/2005 12:23:56 PM PST by ArGee (Having homosexual sex makes as much sense as drinking beer through your a$$.)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Frankly, I've never had any interest in talking to a another guy about my sex life, and no one has ever talked to me about their sex life.

Except women.

I think its a girl thing.


304 posted on 02/17/2005 12:36:06 PM PST by rcocean
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