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N. Korea: Kim rains on 'Sunshine Policy'(Roh's desperate search for summit)
Asia Times ^ | 02/16/05 | Jaewoo Choo

Posted on 02/15/2005 3:51:28 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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Lately, Roh's people began to spread the words that he does not think highly of Kim Jong-il, and is actually tough on Kim if you look "carefully."

He is a moron trying hard to look clever.

1 posted on 02/15/2005 3:51:30 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/15/2005 3:52:21 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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South Korea is turning into a huge disappointment. They're giving aid and comfort to the North, and treating the U.S. more like an enemy.

They are false friends, and ungrateful to us for helping maintain their freedom.

3 posted on 02/15/2005 4:00:11 PM PST by 68skylark
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And in my local Asian/Korean paper there was a big article extolling Roh and blasting Bush & Co for being anti-DPRK and anti-PRC. {sigh}


4 posted on 02/15/2005 4:09:44 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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Re #4

Are you in LA?

5 posted on 02/15/2005 4:10:49 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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If Kim Il Jung has a Nuclear weapon he should prove it by having a test. I suggest he shove the bomb up his butt and light it off.


6 posted on 02/15/2005 4:12:02 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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Strange, my mother reads the Korean paper where we are (CA) and she's found fairly positive articles on the US.

However, she read an editorial from a guy who visited Japan from Korea. He said he saw the news there in Japan, talking about all these positive stories and praising the US. In Korea, that is basically nonexistent. His view is that the Korean news agencies basically mimic the US ones (barf).


7 posted on 02/15/2005 4:17:47 PM PST by krakath
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Neville Roh.

It's time to consider whether Kim Jong Il has managed to acquire an 'agent in place' in Seoul, right there in the Blue House. (as Bill Clinton sez "ahhh BLUE House? izzat where all da ho's are dawg? Gimme some of dat SEOUL food!!")


8 posted on 02/15/2005 4:22:32 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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S. Korea is run by 'useful idiots' when she is at a critical juncture in her history. A bad timing.

I hate useful idiots more than hard-core commies.

9 posted on 02/15/2005 4:24:01 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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Many suspects there are some. When Kim Jong-il regime finally falls, we may find out how many. I am betting against the odds that there is none.

10 posted on 02/15/2005 4:29:06 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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"They are false friends, and ungrateful to us for helping maintain their freedom."

I agree. Lets pull our troops out of the south and send the following clear messages:

1. Tell the crazy little squirrel in the north exactly what will happen to his air force and any troops he sends south once we finish with said air force.

2. Tell the crazy little squirrel in the north and his buddies in China exactly what will happen to North Korea if we detect so much as a single ballistic missile rising from the north.

3. Relay this information to our "friends" in the south and politely tell them there will be no ground support from the US and that they better prepare for the worse. Oh, and by the way, GO F**K YOURSELVES SIDEWAYS!

4. Keep a couple or three carrier battle groups in the general area at all times just to let all parties involved "feel the love".

Problem solved!

11 posted on 02/15/2005 4:30:06 PM PST by Desron13
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The end of World War II is perceived by the North as a victory for the imperialists, in which Korea had no part.

Well, it did end the Japanese occupation of Korea for one thing. And taking this position at a conference populated by Russians is one really good way to get stomped into a mudhole.

12 posted on 02/15/2005 4:31:46 PM PST by Billthedrill
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If we pull our troops out-like we ought to (and anchor a few bird farms within striking distance)- he'll meet Kim REAL soon- in SEOUL!


13 posted on 02/15/2005 4:33:05 PM PST by PzLdr (Liberals are like slugs-they leave a trail of slime wherever they go.)
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As Americans, we need to announce an acceleration and increased scope of troop withdrawal and redeployment south, in the name of "enhanced strategic and tactical flexibility in the face of North Korea's recent announcement", letting both the North and South Koreans stew about precisely what we mean by that expression.


14 posted on 02/15/2005 4:49:44 PM PST by John Valentine
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Kim Jong IL is a retard, and a moron. there is no way to ever negotiate with him. regime change here(N. Korea) is absolutely necessary for anything positive to ever happen.
15 posted on 02/15/2005 4:52:18 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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"As Americans, we need to announce an acceleration and increased scope of troop withdrawal and redeployment south, in the name of "enhanced strategic and tactical flexibility in the face of North Korea's recent announcement", letting both the North and South Koreans stew about precisely what we mean by that expression.

John Valentine,

I Respectfully disagree. As much as it would be fun to let both parties involved stew in their own juices, I believe that sending a claer and consistent message is more important at this point. See my previous post. Besides, it would be nice, not to mention much cheaper, to redeploy those assets along our southern boarder.

16 posted on 02/15/2005 5:00:54 PM PST by Desron13
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>>Are you in LA?

Charlotte, NC. Not sure if the article (page 9, by something called John Feffer, author of "North Korea, South Korea: US Politics at Time of Crisis" -- Feffer is pretty clearly a hard core lefty -- as one Amazon reader put it, "This is an excellent book to read -- if you're starting it convinced that the North Korean government is well-meaning and misunderstood, the US is the Great Satan, and you want your ego stroked") reflects the publisher's view, or what's going on there exactly.

http://www.chungroup.com/asian_news.html

17 posted on 02/15/2005 5:01:53 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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I'm sorry, but I cannot comprehend the significance of the distinction you are trying to draw. My suggestion IS consistent and incremental It is entirely appropriate. And it is not inconsistent with your desire to see these troops redeployed elsewhere.


18 posted on 02/15/2005 5:15:00 PM PST by John Valentine
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He's so Roh-nery.


19 posted on 02/15/2005 5:16:56 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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"I'm sorry, but I cannot comprehend the significance of the distinction you are trying to draw. My suggestion IS consistent and incremental It is entirely appropriate. And it is not inconsistent with your desire to see these troops redeployed elsewhere."

John Valentine,

My Distinction is this. The complete withdrawal of our troop from South Korea within a one year time frame would send two clear messages. The first is proof to the world that we have no interest in invading North Korea. Why they would need any such proof is a testament to the irrationality of the global liberal community.

Second, we would reap the duel benefits of securing our southern border and give us much needed financial relief by transferring the entire support mechanism for the troops brought home to the respective local communities.

The former is a clear message to first and second world nations that we will no longer foot the bill for their physical security. Relatively wealthy countries like South Korea will be forced to pay for their own security.

How is it that a pathetically poor and backward nation like North Korea can threaten their wealthy cousins to the south? I say that it's because we are acting as enablers.

All we really need to do is make it clear to China that we will not allow them to either overtly or covertly to support a military campaign initiated by North Korea. I do believe that we have ample financial leverage to do this.

20 posted on 02/15/2005 6:07:58 PM PST by Desron13
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