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States Mull Taxing Drivers By Mile
CBS | February 14, 2005 | [none cited]

Posted on 02/15/2005 10:18:28 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder

States Mull Taxing Drivers By Mile CORVALLIS, Ore., Feb. 14, 2005

(CBS) College student Jayson Just commutes an odometer-spinning 2,000 miles a month. As CBS News Correspondent Sandra Hughes reports, his monthly gas bill once topped his car payment.

"I was paying about $500 a month," says Just.

So Just bought a fuel efficient hybrid and said goodbye to his gas-guzzling BMW.

And what kind of mileage does he get?

"The EPA estimate is 60 in the city, 51 on the highway," says Just.

And that saves him almost $300 a month in gas. It's great for Just but bad for the roads he's driving on, because he also pays a lot less in gasoline taxes which fund highway projects and road repairs. As more and more hybrids hit the road, cash-strapped states are warning of rough roads ahead.

Officials in car-clogged California are so worried they may be considering a replacement for the gas tax altogether, replacing it with something called "tax by the mile."

Seeing tax dollars dwindling, neighboring Oregon has already started road testing the idea.

"Drivers will get charged for how many miles they use the roads, and it's as simple as that," says engineer David Kim.

Kim and his team at Oregon State University equipped a test car with a global positioning device to keep track of its mileage. Eventually, every car would need one.

"So, if you drive 10 miles you will pay a certain fee which will be, let's say, one tenth of what someone pays if they drive 100 miles," says Kim.

The new tax would be charged each time you fill up. A computer inside the gas pump would communicate with your car's odometer to calculate how much you owe.

The system could also track how often you drive during rush hour and charge higher fees to discourage peak use. That's an idea that could break the bottleneck on California's freeways.

"We're getting a lot of interest from other states," says Jim Whitty of the Oregon Department of Transportation. "They're watching what we're doing.

"Transportation officials across the country are concerned about what's going to happen with the gas tax revenues."

Privacy advocates say it's more like big brother riding on your bumper, not to mention a disincentive to buy fuel-efficient cars.

"It's not fair for people like me who have to commute, and we don't have any choice but take the freeways," says Just. "We shouldn't have to be taxed."

But tax-by-mile advocates say it may be the only way to ensure that fuel efficiency doesn't prevent smooth sailing down the road.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gastax; goodidea; mileage; mileagetax; privacy; privacylist; tax; taxes; transportation
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1 posted on 02/15/2005 10:18:28 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Admin Moderator

Please remove dupe post, thanks! Didn't seem to post 1st time.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 10:21:04 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Will the gasoline tax be eliminated when the "per mile" tax is added?


3 posted on 02/15/2005 10:23:07 AM PST by lews
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.~Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
4 posted on 02/15/2005 10:23:09 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Translation: SUVs are evil. Gas guzzlers are evil. You must drive fuel efficeint vehicles to save not only America but the planet. But don't dare pay a penny less in taxes by doing so!


5 posted on 02/15/2005 10:23:48 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: lews
Will the gasoline tax be eliminated when the "per mile" tax is added?

I hope you know the answer.

6 posted on 02/15/2005 10:24:15 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

One of the worst ideas since the Stamp Act.


7 posted on 02/15/2005 10:24:40 AM PST by Publius Scipio
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To: Publius Scipio

Then perhaps the taxing bodies should tax smokers with a replacement tax as they quit smoking.


8 posted on 02/15/2005 10:26:35 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
But tax-by-mile advocates say it may be the only way to ensure that fuel efficiency doesn't prevent smooth sailing down the road.

That's simply not true. If someone's beef is that the newer cars are more fuel effient, therefore causing more were and tear on the roads per gallon of fuel (though the cars are fuel efficient partly because they are light, thus wearing the roads less per mile), that can be fixed by adjusting the AMOUNT of the per gallon tax. There's no reason to jump all the way to some new technology they could use (and therefore would eventually use) to invade our privacy.

Also, the per mile method "favors the rich" as SUV miles would presumably be taxed the same as Greenie-mobile miles, despite having a differing effect on the roadbed (so liberals aren't supposed to like it).

9 posted on 02/15/2005 10:26:56 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Phantom Lord

AND we get to keep tabs on where you drive!


10 posted on 02/15/2005 10:28:51 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

it will never pass. there will be such a huge market for cars with disconnected odometers, it will be chaos.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 10:29:17 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Thebaddog

I'm sure Blob Reiner is already working on that.


12 posted on 02/15/2005 10:29:30 AM PST by Publius Scipio
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Privacy advocates say it's more like big brother riding on your bumper, not to mention a disincentive to buy fuel-efficient cars.

It's more like big brother's riding in our pocket.

13 posted on 02/15/2005 10:30:46 AM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO BS, NO MSM, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BEDWETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES! YEAH!)
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There's something in my pocket for Big Brother! ;-)


14 posted on 02/15/2005 10:31:52 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Cigarettes are evil but we won't outlaw them because we love to tax YOU to death (if the smoke doesn't get you the taxes will).


15 posted on 02/15/2005 10:34:50 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: lews
Will the gasoline tax be eliminated when the "per mile" tax is added?

ROTFLMAO. I'm sure you meant that sarcastically.

16 posted on 02/15/2005 10:35:32 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
"So, if you drive 10 miles you will pay a certain fee which will be, let's say, one tenth of what someone pays if they drive 100 miles," says Kim.

And then they go and try to confuse us poor tax-paying schmoes with complex mathematical formulae!

Oh, by the way -- to h-ll with this plan for many, many reasons.

17 posted on 02/15/2005 10:38:23 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
And it will cost how much to implement, oversee, gas police, et al...?


18 posted on 02/15/2005 10:40:13 AM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Translation: SUVs are evil. Gas guzzlers are evil. You must drive fuel efficeint vehicles to save not only America but the planet. But don't dare pay a penny less in taxes by doing so!

FUEL-EFFICIENT CARS ARE EVIL ..... . If you live close to another state, fill up in that state (you may need some auxiliary tanks).

19 posted on 02/15/2005 10:44:56 AM PST by PetroniDE (Profile of Winners: Boston Red Sox, New England Patriots, President G.W. Bush, Free Republic)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

When will they implement the Oxygen tax?


20 posted on 02/15/2005 10:52:52 AM PST by mowowie
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