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To: spintreebob
The typical Christian Right person is changing oil at jiffylube or asking if you want fries at McFastfood.

Er this statement doesn't do much for your credibility. This drivel is typically consumed and spread by leftists. In actual fact, a higher percentage of the "Christian Right" have college degrees than any other demographic.

Perhaps you are getting it confused with the "Christian Left," which does, indeed, meet the definition that you give of the right.

Anytime that either Rush or Sean makes a mistatement that is not immediately corrected, the MSM is all over them.

Now, admittedly, I've not listened to either very much, but in neither have I been able detect the distortions and lies so prevalent in the MSM (CBS fer example). Yes, they do tend to present one side of the story. But they make no bones about it. And again, I've heard from them that could be reasonably construed to be a lie. Since you have a different take, perhaps you could post examples.

I personally think that your tax example is bad, because it was obvious from the get go that they have been talking of personal income taxes.
112 posted on 02/17/2005 10:03:19 AM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
The "only the rich pay taxes" example is the most obvious one that backfired bigtime on them. But granted, that was the line of 2002-2003. I don't hear Rush often. I hear Hannity often as he is on WLS delay to the evening. I'll try for current examples.

Agreed the MSM tells many lies. Most AP stories that run as objective news are nothing more than reprints of news releases / reports from leftist organizations.

My favorite is the AP story that said there has been a steady decline in traffic deaths at a constant rate of 200 per year less for the past 15 years. They then listed and gave short credit to
Bbetter engineered highways;
Better engineered cars with ABS, etc;
Better enforcement of DUI and
Seatbelts (they avoided any mention of airbags)

Then the final paragraph concluded that Seatbelts save 20,000 lives per year. Of course, the headline said "Seatbelts save 20,00".

I checked and it was taken verbatim from a PR release of a highway safety advocacy group funded by your tax dollars. I have been directly involved with insurance company statistics and traffic saftey for 37 years. Seatbelts are an expensive social experiment that saves a few lives and causes a few deaths and is a net wash in the saving lives counts. But it increases the price of cars making it more difficult for poor people to buy a car to get to work.

In contrast, ABS and DUI enforcement can clearly be shown to reduce both deaths, injuries and property damage. Not given credit in the article is that drivers are able to afford newer cars, and to keep their cars in better shape. Thus they are able to buy new snow tires more often and get them balanced more often, etc. If the cost of seatbelts were put into even more basic maintenance (and more DUI enforcement) the benefits would be far greater than even those imagined by the seatbelt advocates.

Note that your taxes paying people to preach seatbelts is no different than paying someone to tout No-Child-Left-Behind.

113 posted on 02/17/2005 2:53:35 PM PST by spintreebob
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