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To: KidGlock

Good. There is no such thing as a "journalistic privilege to refuse to disclose source."

Never existed under the law or common law.

It is an invention of the liberal media and Carter-era appointees to the federal courts.

It needs to go.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 7:38:05 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Shermy; cyncooper

Hahaha!


3 posted on 02/15/2005 7:40:09 AM PST by Dog
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To: MeanWestTexan
It needs to go.

I disagree.

I trust the media more than government. Only slightly more, mind you, but I want "unnamed sources" to feel free to rat out the permanent government.

4 posted on 02/15/2005 7:40:56 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Fabulous news.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 7:41:19 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

The best privilege is when you keep your mouth shut.

Therefore, the 2nd best answers are:

"I don't know."

"I have no recollection."


6 posted on 02/15/2005 7:42:06 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
There is no such thing as a "journalistic privilege to refuse to disclose source."

You are absolutely correct and I want to spit in their haughty faces when they say this. However, they CAN, and hey I'd even encourage, choose to go to jail rather than testify.

Of course then the public gets all boo-hoo, poor lying journalist in jail. Then that's part of the plan.

Anyway, the Plame case is a waste of money although, tween you and I, I think the administration knows that whoever dropped the dime about Valerie Plame is a DEM operative.

Which is why I think the administration kept up the hunt. It was like, okay, Dems, you get what you ask for. The Dems never wanted this followed through this far. It was a grand scheme they concocted we all know this.

Methinks their yarn is about to come unraveled and I'm not convinced those journalists want to go to jail for Valerie's honest husband. Who is, by now, a proven liar who wasted America's time on a fraud meant to damage the President's re-election campaign.

I could be wrong here. But just a hunch.

11 posted on 02/15/2005 7:44:15 AM PST by Fishtalk (Once a liberal and victim of all the spin. Ask me to interpret.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Maybe this is just what it takes to stop the leaks to the press. This is not a bad thing. I know journalists may be worried that they'll be frozen out and saying you can't have another Woodward and Bernstien without some 'right' to protect sources. IMO, this is a mixed bag at worst. (Not everyone gets to be a Bob Woodward...) We do have checks and balances built into our government to prevent abuses like Watergate, but no one seems to remember that the Pentagon papers were leaked by people with a political motivation which drove the 'plumbers' to stop the leaks (and use illegal/extra-judicial means). Stoping the leaks at the source by depriving the leakers of their potential reward means that people have3 to work within the system (a system that does work when it is honored). And reporters can still get to the facts without necessarily having to rely on people who would abuse their trust to propel their agenda.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant. That is still true. But this country does have secrets to protect. We really do not want some things to come to light. Those who disagree with policies, particularly in diplomatic and intelligence circles, have dissent channels that do work and do protect them as dissenters. There is a formal process. If they used it instead of taking our dirty laundry out for the world (not just interested/concerned Americans), including our enemies to see we would be better off.

Besides, so far the so-called "Plame-gate" investigation by journalists has yet to reveal anything by the administration worthy of a Woodward or a 'gate' title. Freezing out reporters from anonymous insider leaking does not cripple their ability to get to the facts, but it does prevent those politically motivated leakers from leaking.

If we as Americans really do want to provide this protection to journalists, we need to have a standardized test for journalists and issue licenses similar to we do for lawyers (otherwise, anyone can be a journalist) and we need to amend the Constitution. I know we can ammend the Constitution and pass laws, but I am not so sure how many journalists we'd have left if they had to pass something similar to the Bar exam.

And journalism has it's own means to control this. They have Op-Ed, Commentary, and other columns/outlets to say that this information being presented in this section does not meet the same standard of information/fact-checking. Too often I see opinion insinuated into 'news' articles. Too often the sources are buried so the facts are difficult to check. There are standards for this and all of us learned how to write a bibliography in English classes that I know journalists have to take. If they used the tools available appropriately, perhaps they wouldn't find themselves in the hot seat.

Somewhere between lazy mental fuzziness and seeking to be the headline and not just write the headline, and the political motivations of the leakers it looks like there's lots of room for the profilaxis of personal accountability and self-discipline.

Otherwise, we rely on the Law. Welcome to the world. If you can't control yourself in regards to containing this nations secrets, we have ways to do that for you. Journalists and the leakers alike need to be reminded of this when they go to make that choice. This should serve as a very healthy reminder.


123 posted on 08/12/2005 10:55:18 AM PDT by Lone Red Ranger (The government that's big enough to provide everything for you is big enough to take it all away.)
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