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To: nopardons
It's a boom time and any American who can't get a good job today,is either not willing to move,or is incompetent.

Sorry, missed this.. little overgeneral aren't we. People who don't have an income can't just up and move now can they. You want to throw everyone into your special box after writing them off and throwing them to the dogs for profit and act like it's normal. It is not normal - nor has it ever been. It is normal in this society and others for people to lose jobs because businesses close or trim jobs. But closing whole profitable facilities and moving them over seas to engage in dumping against your home market for higher profit - subverting the market and making it impossible for companies in the home market to compete... In Washington and Jefferson's time, you'd already be hanging from a yard arm. So, spare us.

461 posted on 02/15/2005 7:35:21 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Havoc
It is a historical fact, that businesses in America have ALWAYS gone for the bottom dollar,and yes,thrown out people,brought others in,and paid them less. And in those days,there were NO government programs,none at all,to act as safety nets.

Look at the history of the railroads,for example. The types of people who were engaged to lay track were replaced time and time again by different groups,the last being the Chinese.

In regards to manufacturing jobs and coal mining,as each new immigrant flood came in,the older groups were displaced,shoved out,and replaced by new workers,for less.

Large department stores were also notorious for displacements as well; not to mention the fact the owners and upper managements' pay was so much higher than those who worked for them,that you would be amazed!

Have you never heard of the HAYMARKET RIOT?

In Washington and Jeffersons' time,the Industrial Revolution had not come to these shores,but slavery was well entrenched.And it would really help you,if you knew at least a little history!

I wouldn't have been hung at all;that's just what you wish you could do to me. You want to silence those who can easily refute you.

If someone doesn't have a job,but refuses to do anything about getting,demanding that a job come to him/her and/or that the government should demand businesses to provide a job with a good salary and great benefits...that's SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM and most unAmerican!

There ARE IT jobs out there.Those who don't have one and want one,but refuse to do something about getting one,have only themselves to blame. The same holds true of any other kind of job.

472 posted on 02/15/2005 7:52:56 PM PST by nopardons
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