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To: Havoc
"And 12 percent. Try saying it right.. Nineteen MILLION people. Nineteen million people are irrelevant to you and undeserving of consideration, their jobs, their rights, etc."

What was that rant awhile back where you said I put words in YOUR mouth?

We are 12% above the average employment figures as averaged by the BLS for the last 40 years. Yet you tell me that all is lost because of Reagan's Free Markets these last 20 or so years

Seems to me if your theory is correct we should be way up in unemployment, yet all evidence is to the contrary.

Would you care to explain why or am I misconsturing your assertion.

439 posted on 02/15/2005 5:04:03 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Offshoring as an engine for producing greater profits is growing. Unemployment is not the only marker. The number of new jobs created overseas instead of here that are serving our market that undercuts/subverts business operating here to the point that it is unwise to either go into said lines of business or to work for them knowing it will eventually mean the axe cometh. This is precisely what our forefathers were trying to prevent, the running of America out of it's own marketplace.

You're trying to tell us that now that you've outsourced us up to 5-6 percent unemployment, we should just be happy that only 19 million people are being written off and not worth their jobs or livelihoods... It was lower than what it is now and we were working toward full employment. You are essentially arguing that kicking out up to 6 percent isn't bad as long as it's in the range of prior norms. No, that isn't acceptable. The minute you do it to One person it's unacceptable. When we were squatters under despotism, you had no right to move in and take a man's home and livelihood from him. Higher forms of governance evolved to escape that happenstance. And now that we have the best one on the face of the earth, you're taking men's livelihood away from them and giving it to a foreigner in another land for profit. No different than despotism. If it's no different, how is it better. But it isn't bad enough that this kind of treason is done at all, you're doing it during a tough cycle and in wartime. Not only that; but, when the object isn't staying afloat; but, to make more profit. I don't know how much deeper you can go with that betrayal. If there was profit in it, I'm sure ya'll could imagine it though. I do not understand how you cannot get that.

I don't accept the 5.2 percent number as it, in my understanding, stops counting people as unemployed when they fall of the unemployment roles. There are other problems with it IMO; but, I've never believed those figures from either side because both spin it anyway they can to try for the best face on it.

19 million people. No, it isn't acceptable and it isn't right.


442 posted on 02/15/2005 6:32:43 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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