One, don't put words in my mouth because it is utterly dishonest. Two, I didn't say that. Three, it isn't even implied and does not logically follow...
What is illegal here paying less wages? You lobby the government to put restrictions on the Free Market and then are outraged the Free Market reacts in a way you don't want it to when every valid economic principle ever conceived points to to the outcome at hand.
Objection, your honor, Leading the witness, mistating the record, etc. No, I didn't say that either. But you're crafting such a fine strawman and piling mistatements up..
In point of fact, I didn't lobby the government to change trade policy, your side did that. We out here in flyover country that are being subverted by your actions in changing trade policy are protesting the result of your actions. That's for starters, so let's get the record straight here.
Next, Tarrifs existed on products from outside of our market in order to keep outsiders from subverting our market by dumping. That would be where - oh - say the chinese come over here and undercut our prices across the board putting millions of workers out of work and causing the economy to collapse turning us into a third world nation that can't mobilize for war to defend ourselves. It's the non-military version of war. See, I know this is tough to follow for you that can't be constrained from profiteering - whatever the cost.. but..
Come on say it. Say you want the government to control the ebb and flow of the market.
Yet another false proposition. I want the government to do the same job Washington did - use tariffs as Washington did to prevent foreign powers from subverting our economy. Real simple. Worked incredibly well right up to the point when you decided that protecting America from such a thing was harmful to you making more money. Right back there again aren't we - where you making greater profits is supposed to be somehow more important than the continued viability of this nation..
"Please Hillary give me Collectivism in the name of fairness to all."
What Washington, Jefferson, et al did up to the time that you free traders changed it wasn't collectivism and doesn't even enter the same realm. But, this is the type of tactic you engage in apparently, which tells us the import of the truth to you as well as your capacity to deal forthrightly. I learned long ago from my grandparents that if you have to lie and decieve to get your way, your motives aren't worth the words you put to them. When you lie to America with this spin in attempt to pull the wool and keep them from protesting your actions, you're well into subversion. And that alone tells me that you know that what you're doing is wrong. Care to actually dialogue insteand of shadow-boxing fraudulent arguments and pretending you've done something?
Havoc
You have made some very fine points and very eloquently said. so true about maddawg. he twisted around everything I said.
I can't compete with that. he is a master.
Signing off for now.
No it was Protectionism, until the Socialist movement got going in the 1800s then they latched onto the government intervention in Markets and really bollixed it all up.
Give us a good example of Tariffs working they way you profess them to but I want the Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act explained first.
One: I asked a question
Two: one of your definitions posted is someone who works for low wages. Who defines what a low wage is? Apparenlty whomever does so, you agree with.
Three: Implied? it seems painfully obvious.
Are you stating for the record that Tariffs will not have an effect on the Free Market?