Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Great American Job Sellout
google groups ^ | feb 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:11 AM PST by dennisw

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 541-555 next last
To: GOP_1900AD

"You are probably in better shape then people in blue areas. My observation is that the red area job growth is just fine - it's the traditional urban coastal areas and rust belt that are experiencing the doldrums."

Wow, you almost exactly quoted something my brother opined about a couple of weeks ago.

The South, in general, with it's low cost of living, corporate tax rates and mild climate has really come out as an economic force in the past few years.


81 posted on 02/15/2005 8:17:42 AM PST by L98Fiero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: TXBSAFH

Because there are 5.4 million jobs that are "in-sourced" to America. They are mostly Union jobs and if we stopped "out-sourcing" altogether then our trading partners would reciprocate.


82 posted on 02/15/2005 8:17:45 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: GOP_1900AD

"You are probably in better shape then people in blue areas. My observation is that the red area job growth is just fine - it's the traditional urban coastal areas and rust belt that are experiencing the doldrums."

Wow, you almost exactly quoted something my brother opined about a couple of weeks ago.

The South, in general, with it's low cost of living, corporate tax rates and mild climate has really come out as an economic force in the past few years.


83 posted on 02/15/2005 8:17:48 AM PST by L98Fiero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: Conspiracy Guy
Hey Conspracy Guy, I'm in Alabama.2 years Associates with 15 years experience,8 of which were Motorola in Huntsville,repairing modems.Now working on high speed data I/O devices.

Don't need a job as of yet,but I know alot of telecom guys in the area.Send me a PM with your info.

84 posted on 02/15/2005 8:18:08 AM PST by quack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: 1Old Pro

Quote: Yes, because union workers already compete.....GM, Ford, BMW, Toyota, Nissan, VW, etc


...so, non union autoworkers making say $14-18.oo per hour will be able to make a car competitevely priced with chicom labor at $2-$3.00 PER DAY??? Plus no environmental laws, OSHA, and intellectual property stolen from US etcc YOU ARE DREAMING


85 posted on 02/15/2005 8:18:15 AM PST by superiorslots
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: EagleUSA

The neighborhood kids won't do it, typically, for one of two reasons. Either they are vidiots, or, they consume all their time from age 7 working on getting a really great SAT score, so they can become a partner in a law firm.


86 posted on 02/15/2005 8:19:53 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Protagoras
"I've lived here all my life and I couldn't tell you what a "CHICAGO" style Pizza is."

Two things that should always be Chicago style, Pizza and Economics.

87 posted on 02/15/2005 8:20:10 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawgg

Read my comment more carefully. Most people I see that are working 2-3 jobs are living very frugally and are not living beyond their means. I deal with 100's of employees each month and am down in the trenches so to speak and see what is ACTUALLY GOING ON.


88 posted on 02/15/2005 8:22:30 AM PST by superiorslots
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: GOP_1900AD

Questions for you:
1. Would you hire 50somethings who have been "early retired" against their wishes?
A1. YES, I'm 51.

2. Have such candidates applied?

A2. NONE so far.

3. Where are you located (generally speaking)

A3. Birmingham AL

4. Are you a stickler about degrees?

A4. None of the jobs require a degree. College degrees are overrated. I have on but I got mine on the GI bill while working full time. Nothing from my degree makes my job any easier or harder.

5. How would you characterize the candidates who have applied thus far.

A5. In a phrase, "Would you like some fries with that".


89 posted on 02/15/2005 8:22:48 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawgg

Good point. If we lived the way oh so many folks do, I'd have to work at least 2 jobs just the pay the interest. However, instead, our only debt is a mortgage that would be considered miniscule by most folks. That's it, no other debt. Nada. Of course, we'll never make it into Sunset Magazine either. :=)


90 posted on 02/15/2005 8:22:53 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: superiorslots
so, non union autoworkers making say $14-18.oo per hour will be able to make a car competitevely priced with chicom labor at $2-$3.00 PER DAY??? Plus no environmental laws, OSHA, and intellectual property stolen from US etcc YOU ARE DREAMING

You're dreaming if you think chicom cars will be the only cars on the road.

91 posted on 02/15/2005 8:23:07 AM PST by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: David

Bravo Sierra! I have over 20 years in the tech industry. First programming in mainframe and client server. Now, I cannot even find a job driving a taxi.


92 posted on 02/15/2005 8:24:03 AM PST by DownInFlames
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Protagoras

I couldn't resist. I'd only have a problem with it if you were an illegal alien.


93 posted on 02/15/2005 8:24:12 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: superiorslots
The reason unemployment is low is people are having to work-2-3 jobs. I agree the insurance is high but it is only a small factor.

I disagree on both points.

Also the people I see having to work 2-3 jobs is not nessecarily because they have "too many trappings" like you surmised. Some yes. But most I come across are very frugal.

I never said they have "too many trappings", I asked if they had them. It goes to whether they are in bad shape or not. Whether they need those extra jobs to survive or to get a second car or Plasma TV or play golf. Or smoke cigarttes at $5 a pack. Or drink beer. The poorest Americans are better off than most of the people in the rest of the world.

Construction jobs used to pay $14-15 in my area. Now they pay $7-8.oo per hour because hispanics are willing to do it for that amount.

Competition is a bitch. Those damn old hispanics,,they don't charge high enough prices!!!!

My main point is our country maybe getting a boost from low wages at this time but I think it is going to come crashing down.

I don't think it's getting a "boost".

In the future you will see more people on welfare/public assistance, Heap, food stamps etc.

Those programs should be abolished.

94 posted on 02/15/2005 8:24:15 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: dennisw
"Mexico, the U.S. and Canada will unite under one trade umbrella with American wages dropping to meet Mexico's rising wages, the rest of S. America will join later.", Vicente Fox.

There ya have it. Choke on it.

95 posted on 02/15/2005 8:24:44 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conspiracy Guy

Thanks. I realize you answered a number of these elsewhere but in this format it puts it into perspective. I wish you luck. The main challenge, as I see it, is to convince people who have negative stereotypes about your area to get real. There is far too much regional elitism in this country, and it is a major factor in job imbalances. But the upside for you is, you are not surrounded by whining libs / communists. Fascinating...


96 posted on 02/15/2005 8:25:19 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: DownInFlames

Then move to Birmingham or Huntsville, AL.


97 posted on 02/15/2005 8:26:19 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: Conspiracy Guy

Post your jobs to this thread...see how many resumes you get...


98 posted on 02/15/2005 8:26:40 AM PST by BurbankKarl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: GOP_1900AD

I know. I'm thinking about switching sides too and becoming a hiree rather than a hirer. I am not Superman. I have a broad skill set but I'm just one man.


99 posted on 02/15/2005 8:28:15 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Conspiracy Guy
I couldn't resist. I'd only have a problem with it if you were an illegal alien.

Me too.

We don't live in a free world, but if we did, there would be no need for "legal" or illegal" immigrints. Borders are needed because the world ISN'T free. We in a somewhat free country cannot provide for all the people who are less free, or not free at all.

If you want to stop the inflow of these people from other places, like Mexico, you need to work on the other side of the equation.

100 posted on 02/15/2005 8:28:17 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 541-555 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson