It was a test of the patriot II. The plane was off course a little, and was a brighter target than the drone which was the intended target. Coverup was necessary to avoid bringing down one of the largest defense contactors. Actually, I'm glad for the coverup and I'm glad no one will take my post seriously.
Pleas for Presidential Pardons should be demanded from the Bush Administration, so that they can at least earn more than substandard incomes to support themselves. Sanders, received disability retirement from former department but Liz was and is very employable but unable to seek meaningful work of any substantial kind due to her felony conviction.
Clinton/FBI and Justice Departments hounded these wonderful people, who were merely seeking truth in tragedy, which involved not only regular travelers but TWA staff as well as many other employees and families of TWA. Clinton Administration needed to shut this investigation down quickly or no second term.
Bump for later.
If it were me,and I had access to a hot tape, first order of business is to make a copy.
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I read that book and thought that the theory/information seemed very plausible.
TWA 800's successful shootdown took place only weeks before DIRT Ex-POTUS' re-election. Acknowledging a terror horror on US soil that close to the balloting wouldn't ensured not only a Xlinton loss, but the end of Democratic rule for a generation.
They HAD to manufacture a myth about "central fuel tanks". That they were able to do this despite hundreds of witnesses terrifies me to this day.
8 posted on 07/23/2004 2:16:54 PM CDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
I saw it. My oldest and I both saw the tape.
Ex-NTSB honcho tries to torpedo 'First Strike'
Posted: March 15, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
There is something sad about Peter Goelz – something sad about the once-proud party that produced him, something sad about the unseemly process that raised him up.
That process transformed a man whose only prior transportation experience had been as a lobbyist for sleazy riverboat-gambling interests into the managing director of the National Transportation Safety Board.
What the process could not do, however, was change the man. Despite the Washington veneer, Goelz remains, at heart, the dirty trickster he once was.
On March 3, a day before the release of First Strike: TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America, Goelz planted a hostile review of the book in Amazon. The "one-star" review reads as follows:
Garbage In Garbage Out, March 3, 2003
Reviewer: pgoelz1 from Alexandria, Va. This is another attempt to try and profit from tragedy. First it was the Navy who supposedly shot down TWA Flight 800 and tried to cover it up. Now with our fighting men and women held in somewhat higher esteem that theory seems almost unpatriotic. The authors now try and slightly shift the blame – but in the end, no matter how you slice it, it's still all baloney. Save your money.
Goelz served with the NTSB during the entire course of the four-year TWA Flight 800 investigation – the last three years as managing director. That he conceals this fact in the review is at best duplicitous. That he finds the still unresolved death of 230 people worthy of a pun-filled prank is downright disgraceful.
To be sure, Goelz has good cause to conceal his role. The picture James Sanders and I paint of Goelz in "First Strike" does not flatter. It involves one example after another of misdirection and dissembling.
A political crony of NTSB Chairman Jim Hall, Goelz was invariably prepared to say what the situation demanded. He and Hall had gotten to know each other in the Clinton-Gore Tennessee campaign of 1992. Neither had any experience related to the work with which the NTSB is tasked, but Goelz had the ability to stay on message, a useful talent in Clinton's Washington.
Instructive in the ways of Goelz's style is his treatment of Kelly O'Meara. O'Meara had served as Long Island Congressman Michael Forbes' chief of staff before becoming a reporter. In fact, it was her aggressive pursuit of the truth about TWA Flight 800 that led to her controversial departure from Forbes' office.
Early in 1998, someone inside the NTSB had quietly released new radar data showing a large number of radar blips moving in unison between 22 and 35 miles south of the TWA 800 crash site. This piqued O'Meara's interest. Reporting for Insight magazine, which is published by the Washington Times, O'Meara interviewed Goelz and asked him what the data meant – and why it had not surfaced before. O'Meara had no sooner left his office, however, than Goelz called Howard Kurtz of the rival Washington Post to plant a story defaming her. Kurtz would quote Goelz as saying: "She really believes that the United States Navy shot this thing down and there was a fleet of warships."
As O'Meara's audiotape revealed, however, it was the mocking and evasive Goelz who raised the issue of a missile, not O'Meara. Wrote Insight editor Paul Roderiquez: "In my experience as a veteran newsman, journalists would never roll over and allow government bureaucrats to use them to slime their colleagues. Yet that precisely is what recently happened."
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Salinger 'totally sure' TWA 800 missile theory is true
Pentagon, federal investigators insist he's wrong
March 13, 1997
Web posted at: 10:49 a.m. EST (1549 GMT)
In this story:
* Salinger: Video 'confirms a missile'
* Report: Russian satellite has proof
* Missile theory discredited
* Tape seized from pilot
* Related stories and sites
PARIS (CNN) -- Former newsman Pierre Salinger insisted again Thursday that a Navy missile downed TWA Flight 800, this time offering a 69-page document and a set of radar images to bolster his case.
"We have now reached the point where we are totally sure what we are saying is true," Salinger, a former ABC News correspondent and press secretary to President Kennedy, told a Paris news conference.
T R A N S C R I P T S
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ggh8lToINi8J:www.cnn.com/US/9703/13/twa/+jim+hall,+ntsb,+twa+800&hl=en
Tape seized from pilot
Investigators say three possible crash theories remain -- a bomb, a missile or mechanical failure -- but they insist the investigation has ruled out an errant missile strike by the U.S. military.
The FBI this week launched a criminal investigation, hoping to stop missile theorists. On Tuesday, agents seized a videotape that former pilot Richard Russell claimed was FAA tape showing radar images of a missile near the doomed plane.
Salinger first based his friendly fire claim on a memo Russell wrote and circulated on the Internet.
The videotape was examined closely and found to have no indications of any missile, The New York Times reported Thursday.
The FBI also has been trying to question a former California police officer who said he obtained and did tests on an actual piece of the wreckage.
Paris Bureau Chief Peter Humi, Correspondent Peg Tyre, the Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
TWA FLIGHT 800: Pilot takes NTSB to court: CIA lied, expert eyewitnesses come forward
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, December 12, 2003 | Jack Cashill
Posted on 12/12/2003 2:25:10 AM PST by JohnHuang2
Airline captain takes NTSB to court
Posted: December 12, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
On Monday, Dec. 15, Retired United Airline Capt. Ray Lahr takes his case against the National Transportation Safety Board to court, the last adversary this unlikely activist ever expected to face.
Lahr has no illusion about the challenge he faces, but he is focusing his attack on the most vulnerable point of the NTSB's defense – what he calls "the zoom-climb scenario" – and he has marshaled some impressive forces to help breach it.
The government first advanced this scenario six years earlier – Nov. 18, 1997, to be precise. That was the day that the FBI closed the criminal case on TWA Flight 800 and did so in a dramatic fashion. It was also the day that forever changed Lahr's life.
To negate the stubborn testimony of some 270 FBI eyewitnesses who had sworn they saw a flaming, smoke-trailing, zigzagging object ascend, arc over and destroy TWA Flight 800 off the coast of Long Island, the FBI showed a video prepared by the CIA.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:x6_ncyKsy0oJ:www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038971/posts+jim+hall,+ntsb,+twa+800&hl=en
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I have a hard time believing all this. Although I think we all agree that the mainstream media is in bed with the Clintons/Democrats, it's my experience that a journalist will never pass over an oppritunity to make a name for himself/herself.
We always thought that 'Flight 800' had been shot down by a missle but we thought it was fired by a terrorist. In fact we still think that. Clinton had it all covered up so that he would not have that 'stain' on his 'presidency'.