Gays Debate Radical Steps to Curb Unsafe Sex

New York Times ^ | 2/14/05 | Andrew Jacobs

[rottndog]

One Simple Rule:

Keep de peepee out o de poopoo.

[Callahan]

He and others said it would be more effective to try to identify the underlying causes of drug abuse and self-destructive behavior, including the difficulty of living in a society that rejects committed gay relationships while condemning homosexuals for having sex outside those relationships. Gay men, he said, are using methamphetamine as an antidepressant.

This line got my attention. If fear of death doesn't keep these guys from participating in "impromptu sex parties," what effect will gay marriage have?

[NorCalRepub]

I never understood that in SF, it took them years to close those sick Gay bath houses even while the members where dropping like flys......of course they could just have been the intitial version of "bug chasers" trying to get AIDS.

[jocon307]

This is a fascinating article. I was just reading it while looking for more news on another story.

Are the radical gays finally getting a clue?

My brother died of AIDS, could partner tracing have saved him? I'll never know, but I'll never forgive the attitude of the radical gay community towards this disease, it has cost MANY lives.

They did more harm to their own group than Jerry Fallwell ever could have, or WOULD have done.

[MacDorcha]

Homosexuality is self-destructive? Whoda thunk it?

[Frapster]

that line stuck out to me as well. as with most vices there are those that think legitimizing the vice in some fashion will somehow make people who are fundamentally out of control suddenly find control.

[July 4th]

Within a certain strain of the culture, there is no fear of death. My best friend is a doctor who works in a university clinic, and he sees a fair number of gay students. It really shocked him at the number who automatically assume that they won't live past 40, and won't listen to his recommendations on health because they are only expecting to live 15-20 more years.

[Onelifetogive]

it could involve showing up at places where impromptu sex parties happen and confronting the participants.

I suggest that they wear one of those John Kerry blue bunny suits...

[RobbyS]

Surprise , surprise. They are discovering that males in heat act irrationally.

[csmusaret]

The Rump Rangers ride again.

[xJones]

He and others said it would be more effective to try to identify the underlying causes of drug abuse and self-destructive behavior, including the difficulty of living in a society that rejects committed gay relationships while condemning homosexuals for having sex outside those relationships. Gay men, he said, are using methamphetamine as an antidepressant.

That's right, if society would only accept rump rangers, all would be just ducky.

The fact that anal sex is extremely unhealthy, leading to countless bowel diseases plus HIV infections, wouldn't matter any more. Click your red heels three times and wish very, very hard....

[RobbyS]

The kind of madness that Paul of Taurus talks about in his letter to the Romans.

[RobbyS]

Are gay marriages know for the fidelity of the partners?

[Darkwolf377]

Everything they are considering is considered a sign of hoomophobia when straight people have suggested it.

[randog]

At the very least, these advocates say, gay men must start taking responsibility for their own, before a resurgent epidemic draws government officials who could use even more aggressive tactics.

Those interment camps they're building in Idaho really have 'em spooked.

... others said it would be more effective to try to identify the underlying causes of drug abuse and self-destructive behavior, including the difficulty of living in a society that rejects committed gay relationships while condemning homosexuals for having sex outside those relationships.

How did I know that it was my fault homos are infecting each other with AIDS? How will I ever be able to live with myself?! O', the shame!

[Callahan]

The idea that gays lose themselves in self-destructive mindless hedonism to drown out the pain of being rejected by society is a common theme these days. I think it also has to to with the male sex drive being multiplied by two. If all the girls I knew in college were as willing as the guys, it would have been a real mess.

[rottndog]

"I never understood that in SF, it took them years to close those sick Gay bath houses ..."



Didn't they eventually reopen the bath houses? Anyway, their sickness manifests itself in many ways. I watched a John Stossel report on 20/20 awhile back--there were gay bars where there was a wall with holes at strategic heights on the wall. Anyone could and would just anonymously walk up to a hole and, well, you get the idea. No one ever knew who or what was on each side of the wall. Sick stuff.

It's hard to have compassion for a group of people who are so deliberately self destructive.

[PilloryHillary]

"He and others said it would be more effective to try to identify the underlying causes of drug abuse and self-destructive behavior, including the difficulty of living in a society that rejects committed gay relationships while condemning homosexuals for having sex outside those relationships. Gay men, he said, are using methamphetamine as an antidepressant."

Well, cry me a river! Somehow there is always somebody else to blame for sick and depraved behavior. I'm surprised this person didn't say "IT'S BUSH'S FAULT" as well. Sheesh.

[democratslayer]

"You have to remember that was the era when Jesse Helms and others were saying that gay people got what they deserved, and that the government shouldn't spend any money to help them," said David Evans

I agree with Jesse. Further, I submit that AIDS is a product
of natural selection, ala Darwin... mother nature cleansing
herself.