WND 'Why First Responders Won't Respond'

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Feb. 14, 2005 | Shane Connor

[Beckwith]

What to Do If A Nuclear Disaster Is Imminent!

1. Spread your feet a comfortable distance apart.

2. Reach down and grab you ankles.

3. Place your head between your knees.

4. Kiss your ass goodbye.

[TXFireman]

ping

[eno_]

The author is both serious and correct. If there is a dirty bomb or a small nuke detonated in the U.S., the response will be disorganized and the bungled response will cost hundreds to thousands of lives.

[Modernman]

If there is a dirty bomb or a small nuke detonated in the U.S., the response will be disorganized and the bungled response will cost hundreds to thousands of lives.

The damage from a dirty bomb are mostly psychological, unless you happen to be standing next to it when it goes off.

There's not much the authorities can do if a nuke goes off in a US city. People within the blast zone will die quickly, people within a certain radius will die slowly and people within a certain radius will have their cancer rates go up.

[eno_]

In broad terms what you say is true. But based on this article, it seems that many burn victims will die waiting to find if they are too hot to move.

[Sgt_Schultze]

...What are the Chinese and Russians preparing for?

The Chinese one-child policy has reportedly encouraged families to abort female children. With the high population, that is probably causing a large imbalance of males to females. That's a lot of "surplus" young males who will be condemned to live life without female companionship. In the event of a ground war, the Chinese could probably field an army of several million of these disaffected youths.

Maybe that's how they intend to solve their burgeoning population of young men.

[Question_Assumptions]

The United States should simply clarify it's MAD doctrine. Our targets won't just be military targets. The bulk of our nuclear strikes will be against dams, cities, and below-surface strikes on farmland to throw as much radioactive soil into the air as possible and render the farmland useless. MAD should be about eliminating a nation as a viable entity.

[Poohbah]

In the event of a ground war, the Chinese could probably field an army of several million of these disaffected youths.

Which would work for the Chinese about as well as recruiting Crips and Bloods into the US Army would work for us--and it would fail because of the same underlying issue. Read some of George Gilder's early stuff (from before he tried to become a geek guru).

[sure_fine]

thanks to the author for posting and doing the follow up..that doesn't happen often

Which would work for the Chinese about as well as recruiting Crips and Bloods into the US Army

exactly, they would self destruct

[CLS]

"...the bungled response will cost hundreds to thousands of lives."

Perhaps that is the intended consequence?

My comment above is only PARTIALLY tongue-in-cheek. The sad part is, that my response COULD be the truth.

Has anyone read about the Georgia GuideStones?

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

It makes one think ....

[PLMerite]

"Maybe that's how they intend to solve their burgeoning population of young men."

Reminds me of something Mao was supposed to have said when presented with the prospect of a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, "Good! Give me a hundred million fewer mouths to feed."

[RetroWarrior]

If a 'small nuke' went off in a busy metropolitan area, most first responders would be DEAD! That would slow them up a bit!

As for a 'dirty bomb', the greatest damage would come from panic. But I don't think there would be much panic.

If you've ever seen a disaster area, you'd notice how most people act calmly and become 'first responders' themselves. Just look at the earthquakes, floods, etc.

When Chernobyl blew, people were removed from the affected areas without major problems. Yes, the Russian government was late in alerting the population, but the evacuation went very smoothly.

[shanec]

The damage from a dirty bomb are mostly psychological, unless you happen to be standing next to it when it goes off.

True, but there are a couple things to know to minimize radiation inhalation exposure downwind.

There's not much the authorities can do if a nuke goes off in a US city.

True, but more families could start to become better prepared the sooner they grasp the reality that they've always been on their own. Also, from the guide What to Do If A Nuclear Disaster Is Imminent! we state; Government information and guidance is a vital resource in your response to a nuclear crisis, but for many reasons it may be late, incomplete, misleading or simply in error. While evacuation might be prudent for individuals who act quickly in response to a threat, governments will be slow to call for mass evacuations because of their potential for panic and gridlock. As the recent government calls for duct tape and plastic sheeting led to sold-out stores, anxiety, and derision from the press, there will be great reluctance to issue similar alarms. If you want to assure that you have adequate food and supplies for your family you must act BEFORE the panic without first waiting for government instructions that may never come or as urgently as warranted. You alone are ultimately responsible for your family.

People within the blast zone will die quickly, people within a certain radius will die slowly and people within a certain radius will have their cancer rates go up.

True, for the ground zero blast zone victims, but there is really 'Good News' awaiting that larger vast majority that will be downwind that will only have to deal with radioactive fallout. See the guide linked above for effective and practical tactics to dispel those widely held and self-defeating nuclear un-survivability myths. They are what will have many families tragically failing to even try for lack of well proven basic knowledge.

-Shane

[CDB]

Recently a Toronto Star news reporter was given a guided tour of the fallout shelters in Beijing

Do the words "Potemkin Village" come to mind? There's a sucker born every minute, isn't there?

[Modernman]

I live no more than 3 miles from the White House and the Capitol. If someone nukes DC, I figure I have about a 0% chance of surviving, so I'm kind of fatalistic about the whole thing.

[GOP_1900AD]

What to cut in order to fund Civil Defense. Let me start the list, others welcome to add on:
1. UN dues
2. Foreign aid to backstabbing anti US countries
3. All funding of abortion
4. Most non business related grants
5. Agricultural subsidies

[BurbankKarl]

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html

have you seen this site? navigate using the chapters on the bottom...

[shanec]

I live no more than 3 miles from the White House and the Capitol. If someone nukes DC, I figure I have about a 0% chance of surviving, so I'm kind of fatalistic about the whole thing.

The biggest surprize to the greatest number of people will be that they actually did survive the inital blast. But, they will then need to know what to do next, and quickly, or they risk not surviving for too long. Ideally, they need to have found out well beforehand, figured out their sheltering/evacuation best options and already acquired some minimum preps, mostly stuff they can someday use anyways even if nothing bad ever does get unleashed. Read the guide linked above, and discover how many more families could survive than currently think so.

-Shane

[LowInMo]

I agree. I think it is time to take at least 50% of every paycheck and 98% of every savings account from every individual in the United States of America and spend it on fallout shelters just in case someone, somewhere, at some future time, just might, either accidentally or on purpose, finds, or creates, or just thinks about, a dirty nuclear weapon. Whether or not they have the intelligence to actually set it off. I mean, what if there actually IS a 'gator in the pond?