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Making tacks (Trans-Texas Corridor)
The Herald Democrat ^ | February 13, 2005 | Kathy Williams

Posted on 02/14/2005 9:23:25 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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A map of possible alternatives for TTC-35.

 

A concept of what the Trans-Texas Corridor will look like.

1 posted on 02/14/2005 9:23:25 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I try to read all these articles--but very soon, I get a bad case of eye glaze. In the first place, any project that takes 50 yrs to complete boggles the mind--sort of reminds me of Boston's Big Dig, though I don't think they planned for that to take 50 years.

Among other things, the two big problems I have with this is that it will be another case of government grabbing land from the owners, and the other is, using Mexican firms to develop and build it.

I will agree that I-35 is a mess, and hazardous to drive at times--but this just seems a bit of overkill to me.

DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS! (And this would be a really big messing with Texas for a very long time!)

And them's my two cents.

2 posted on 02/14/2005 9:35:37 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Diddle E. Squat; deport; maui_hawaii; Ben Ficklin; zeugma; MeekOneGOP; ...
Pro TTC Ping!

This is a pro Trans-Texas Corridor ping list.

Please let me know by Freepmail if you want on or off the list.

3 posted on 02/14/2005 9:41:49 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks


4 posted on 02/14/2005 9:44:39 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The map - do we have a legend on this, or a zoom that's readable? I'm zooming on mine, but can't read the text - and the map on the TTC site is next to useless.

Do you have more information on the colors on this map? Anyone?


5 posted on 02/14/2005 9:46:03 AM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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Here are some links various Freepers have posted on other Trans Texas Corridor (TTC) threads on Free Republic



Paleo Conservative


Free Republic search on keyword "TTC"

Interview (Audio) NPR | February 8, 2005 A Superhighway for Texas?



Diddle E. Squat


Here's the website with more info and explanation:

http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/

Here's a list of meetings where you can ask questions(and I encourage everyone who can to attend and ask questions)

http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/pdfs/TTC-35_Public_Meetings.pdf

Here's a link to the map of the TTC-35 corridor alternatives, which are approximately 10 miles wide study areas (the actual selected single corridor will be at most 1/4 mile wide):

http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/pdfs/TTC- 35_Alternatives_Map.pdf



Ben Ficklin

The Oklahoma Extension

La Entrada al Pacifico

1990-2000 Population Growth of Border Metro Areas

Bidders for TTC contract

NHS High Priority Corridors



maui_hawaii

Port of Houston teams up with Panama to draw a piece of Asia's massive trade away from West Coast

6 posted on 02/14/2005 9:46:26 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
From the Gainesville Daily Register:

Trans-Texas Cooridor on track for completion

By STEPHEN MONAHAN, Register Staff Writer

The Texas Department of Transportation (TxDot) held its first open house meeting of 2005 at the Civic Center Thursday night regarding to the construction of the Trans-Texas Corridor.

The Trans-Texas Corridor, in its initial phase, is a 10-mile wide network that stretches from the North Texas area to Mexico and/or the Gulf Coast and will be used as a transportation alternative for motorists and freight lines. The area will be narrowed to 1200 feet wide by the time construction is ready to begin.

TxDot's meeting Thursday allowed the public to view and conceive their own opinions of the superhighway's existence by use of standing placards and illustrations of the proposed area for the corridor's occupancy.

TxDot is using a tiered environmental study called Tier One which focuses on the project as a whole. The current study for the Oklahoma to Mexico/Gulf Coast encompasses about 800 miles long and includes 77 counties. Upon completion of the environmental study, the project size could be narrowed down to nearly 10 miles wide.

The environmental study is conducted according to the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and is scheduled to be completed by spring 2006 with either a preferred corridor selected for construction or a no build option.

Doug Booher, TxDot's environmental manager of the Texas Turnpike Authority Division, said the idea of the corridor stems from three challenges Texas residents face in the next 50 years. The first, he said, is TxDot envisions a problem of population growth with an estimated 33,000,000 people in Texas by 2030.

Another challenge Texans face, Booher said, is the "level of service on the existing facilities is declining and there are congestion issues on the roadway."

A third challenge residents face is "truck and freight movement by rail will increase in the next 50 years," Booher said. "The State is trying to plan for the future transportation for Texas," he added.

The corridor's maximum capacity (10 miles wide) would consist of four lanes for trucks (semi's), six passenger lanes, two freight rails, two high-speed passenger rails, two commuter rails and a 200-foot utility zone consisting of water, electric, natural gas, petroleum, fiber optic and/or telecommunication lines.

But Booher frankly added that these lanes and rail lines will not be constructed unless there is a need.

As for the cost of the corridor's construction, it's a hefty one.

"The estimated cost for the construction of corridor for all modes of transportation is around $36,000,000 per mile," Booher said. "But if it's just for a truck or passenger facility, of course, it would be less."

The public was encouraged to also leave their feedback and comments by either writing or speaking their mind.

"On the whole, in general, it's positive," said Booher on the public's response to the corridor's construction. "There are certainly people who are negative, but we welcome all opinions. It's really in the hands of the citizens of Texas for this to go forth."

7 posted on 02/14/2005 9:47:48 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: basil

using Mexican firms to develop and build it



Which Mexican firms are being used?


8 posted on 02/14/2005 9:49:07 AM PST by deport (There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.)
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To: 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; anymouse; B-Chan; barkeep; Ben Chad; Ben Ficklin; ..

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!

Please let me know if you want to be added or removed from the list. Thanks.


9 posted on 02/14/2005 9:50:03 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: dandelion

http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/pdfs/TTC-35_Alternatives_Map.pdf

Try the above map


10 posted on 02/14/2005 10:05:08 AM PST by deport (There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

So is this a NAFTA highway or is it to enhance the port of Houston's ability to deliver goods throughout America ?

Taking some of the shipping strain off east and west ports ???

Good educational info....thanks for the pings


11 posted on 02/14/2005 10:36:10 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Trans-Texas Cooridor on track for completion

Cooridor. The Daily Register strikes again!

12 posted on 02/14/2005 10:39:12 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Squantos
So is this a NAFTA highway or is it to enhance the port of Houston's ability to deliver goods throughout America ?

It's that plus more. The idea is to keep long haul traffic away from urban areas so it doesn't clog up urban freeways. The first corridors will handle lots of NAFTA traffic.

13 posted on 02/14/2005 12:07:05 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Are my eyes deceiving me are is this planned to run through some of the most expensive realestate around houston. If so it's not going anywhere. do you have a close up view of the Montgomery County,etc areas?


14 posted on 02/14/2005 2:37:20 PM PST by marty60
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To: deport

Whoops! Meant to say Spanish firm!


15 posted on 02/14/2005 2:38:41 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: marty60

Click the link in #10 and you can expand the map to look at the Houston area..... However the TTC-35 will be to the west of Houston as it will parallel I-35... The one that will get closer to Houston will be the I-69 Corridor which is much further out in time..... But my guess is it will be to the north and west of Montgomery couty for the most part.


16 posted on 02/14/2005 3:21:14 PM PST by deport (There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.)
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To: marty60

http://www.i69corridorstudy.com/global/myarea/central.asp

The above shows the Houston area for the I-69 corridor and it shows Montgomery county to be included.... So who knows what they are looking at if anything at this time. This project is some 1600 miles from Port Huron Michigan to the Valley and crosses some 11 or so states if I remember correctly...


17 posted on 02/14/2005 3:27:26 PM PST by deport (There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.)
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To: deport

They don't have The Woodlands listed. does that mean it's ok.


18 posted on 02/14/2005 3:34:12 PM PST by marty60
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To: marty60

They don't have The Woodlands listed. does that mean it's ok.



Regarding the I-69 I don't know...... I don't know if they are conducting meetings regarding it. For the TTC-35 I think everything is much farther to the west of The Woodlands...... It will follow I-35 as I understand it.


19 posted on 02/14/2005 4:02:05 PM PST by deport (There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"The first corridors will handle lots of NAFTA traffic."

Maybe. But according to one website that I read (no, it wasn't CorridorWatch.com - like I said, I spend little time there, I prefer to develop my own thoughts), it would be a violation of NAFTA to force only NAFTA trucks to use these super-high priced toll roads. I'm not sure about this, but it may even be a violation of NAFTA to force all long-haul trucks to use these privately-owned highways (since that would also force NAFTA trucks on to the toll roads).

That leaves the option of either allowing NAFTA trucks to continue to plow through the middle of Austin and Dallas/Ft. Worth, or having someone else pay the toll to Cintra. Anyone care to guess who will get stuck with the bill.
20 posted on 02/14/2005 4:14:19 PM PST by BobL
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