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Photo Essay: Fire Destroys Skyscraper in Madrid
News.Com.AU ^ | 02/14/05 | staff

Posted on 02/14/2005 7:59:21 AM PST by yankeedame

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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Please. That "Popular Mechanics" article ignores so many of the facts of 9-11, it's not even worth reading (which I unfortunately did).

besides, I could point you to several sources whose own appointed 'experts' think that 9-11 was an insider job. That doesn't make them 'right', just because they're published, in either case. Someone with an agenda can always find an 'expert' to echo their side of the story.


41 posted on 02/14/2005 10:51:10 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

"Nor is this the forum where anything factual would be listened to anyways!"

Not that you would know the difference. You sure don't understand the physics of heat energy.


42 posted on 02/14/2005 10:56:46 AM PST by Niteranger68 ("I am not a conservative because I am successful; I am successful because I am a conservative.")
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To: RacerF150

"Not that you would know the difference. You sure don't understand the physics of heat energy."


So why should I waste my time on a mind as closed as your all-knowing one? Besides, I wouldn't want to shatter your preconceived notions of people you've never (nor will ever) meet.


43 posted on 02/14/2005 11:03:24 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba
You originally said that jet fuel couldn't generate enough heat to cause what happened. I knew it could go over 1000 degrees and brought in a reference to back it up.
44 posted on 02/14/2005 11:08:16 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I can saw a woman in two/But you won't want to look in the box when I do" - Warren Zevon)
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To: Blzbba

So, tell us, what really brought down the towers? If it wasn't the aircraft and the fires...


45 posted on 02/14/2005 11:11:17 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

"You originally said that jet fuel couldn't generate enough heat to cause what happened."


Actually, I only said what the burning temp of jet fuel in normal conditions is.

And believe me, if jet fuel really could be used to melt or cut steel, welders everywhere would've been using it for decades to cut steel, instead of the far-more-expensive materials they are forced to use since jet fuel isn't a viable steel cutter.


46 posted on 02/14/2005 11:25:08 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

You still haven't told us what really brought down the towers.

If it was some sort of domestic conspiracy, why bring down #7 as well?


47 posted on 02/14/2005 11:28:28 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole

" If it wasn't the aircraft and the fires..."


I never said "wasn't". But after reading how WTC7 was intentionally pulled down, I can't help but wonder if the other 2 towers had some help. Especially given the billions of dollars that the owner of WTC saved in demolition costs and the near-perfect (considering they were 110-stories high) manner in which they collapsed upon themselves.

To date, both WTC towers are the only metal-framed, reinforced concrete structures on earth that have collapsed due to fire.


48 posted on 02/14/2005 11:29:07 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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Especially given the billions of dollars that the owner of WTC saved in demolition costs and the near-perfect (considering they were 110-stories high) manner in which they collapsed upon themselves.

They intentionally brought down the towers on the heads of thousands of people?

49 posted on 02/14/2005 11:31:07 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole

See your email.


50 posted on 02/14/2005 11:38:51 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

"So why should I waste my time on a mind as closed as your all-knowing one? Besides, I wouldn't want to shatter your preconceived notions of people you've never (nor will ever) meet."

I have no idea what you are babbling about. You have obviously been educated well beyond your intelligence and have managed to rewrite the laws of thermodynamics in the process. Your reference to 800 degrees (no mention of specific scale) looks to be right out of Killtown's conspiracy theories.

I will assume that you believe a fire started with jet fuel can not exceed 800° (F, C, K, R?). If my assumption is incorrect, then why did you even bring up the ignition temperature of jet fuel anyway? Now, let's take a nice warm sunny day where the temperature is 90°F. Using your assumption, how is it possible that the road temperature can and often will exceed 90°F? Well? You only have 90°F to start with so how do you end up with a temperature of over 90°F? It's called accumulation of heat energy.....learn it, know it, live it!




51 posted on 02/14/2005 12:15:47 PM PST by Niteranger68 ("I am not a conservative because I am successful; I am successful because I am a conservative.")
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To: RacerF150

That's all well & good, but it doesn't address the intentional demolition of WTC 7.


52 posted on 02/14/2005 12:19:16 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

"That's all well & good, but it doesn't address the intentional demolition of WTC 7."

Neither does your pseudo-science.


53 posted on 02/14/2005 12:38:06 PM PST by Niteranger68 ("I am not a conservative because I am successful; I am successful because I am a conservative.")
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To: RacerF150

"Neither does your pseudo-science."


Nor does yours.


54 posted on 02/14/2005 12:42:23 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

"Nor does yours."

LOL......I'm not making the claim, you are!


55 posted on 02/14/2005 1:00:31 PM PST by Niteranger68 ("I am not a conservative because I am successful; I am successful because I am a conservative.")
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To: RacerF150

Read the article on Silverstein and WTC 7 pulling before responding again, please.


56 posted on 02/14/2005 1:06:16 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

"Read the article on Silverstein and WTC 7 pulling before responding again, please."

Oh, I have. And you are not going to "pull" me into believing GWB wants to take over the world. This is nothing more than backward thinking. Start with a conclusion (W is evil), then go on a premise finding mission. That's where people like you become amusing and annoying all at the same time.

When you have some PROOF, we'll talk.


57 posted on 02/14/2005 1:39:33 PM PST by Niteranger68 ("I am not a conservative because I am successful; I am successful because I am a conservative.")
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To: RacerF150

"And you are not going to "pull" me into believing GWB wants to take over the world. "


Please show me where I've assigned blame to GWB in this, or any other thread before spouting off anymore of your nonsense.


58 posted on 02/14/2005 1:44:14 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: RacerF150

"When you have some PROOF, we'll talk."


In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million!


You obviously didn't bother to read anything, so I won't bother responding to anymore of your head-in-the-sand replies.


59 posted on 02/14/2005 1:46:22 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

"In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million!


You obviously didn't bother to read anything, so I won't bother responding to anymore of your head-in-the-sand replies."

So I guess real estate appreciation is part of your conspiracy theory too. Don't get me wrong.....I have no doubt that YOU believe this non-sense......

Earth to spaceship screwball....we are terminating this transmission.


60 posted on 02/14/2005 3:00:14 PM PST by Niteranger68 ("I am not a conservative because I am successful; I am successful because I am a conservative.")
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