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Ban me Jim [Re: Illegal Immigration, ALIPAC and the Minuteman Project]
Hoverbug

Posted on 02/13/2005 11:56:57 PM PST by Hoverbug

Hi Jim,

Looks like Illegal Immigration and Amnesty is going to be your downfall, and the downfall of FR if you don't change your ways. I hope it is not the downfall of the conservative movement. Or is that what you wanted?

Your story is all over the web, and many people now know the truth.

I kept my account here for just this occassion. Go ahead and ban me and prove your critics correct. I reported abuse (name calling, personal attacks etc.)from your favorites, and I was the one that was suspended.

The jig is up Jim, and you've been exposed.

Buh Bye! The web will call the Viking Kitty's on you.

HB


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To: Dead Corpse

Go back and see who I was responding to.


181 posted on 02/14/2005 8:45:02 AM PST by Darksheare (It is not a ZOT, it is aggressive electro-dermal exfoliation! Yeeeeeeeeeeeagh!)
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To: Darksheare
Then explain it to me. All I'm seeing right now is people coming down on the Minutemen because some neo-Nazi's are supporting it for their own reasons.

Shouldn't this be an opportunity for us to marginalize the Stormfronters by making sure the Minutemen doesn't turn in to just another whacked out racist cabal? Instead of running away from the whole issue at the first hint of trouble?

182 posted on 02/14/2005 8:46:30 AM PST by Dead Corpse (The neighborhood is pretty dead at night, and I'm the one to blame....)
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To: Darksheare

Yeah... I've read the whole thread. My statements stand.


183 posted on 02/14/2005 8:47:23 AM PST by Dead Corpse (The neighborhood is pretty dead at night, and I'm the one to blame....)
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To: Dead Corpse

Nevermind then as my patience at the moment is thin.


184 posted on 02/14/2005 8:47:48 AM PST by Darksheare (It is not a ZOT, it is aggressive electro-dermal exfoliation! Yeeeeeeeeeeeagh!)
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To: Darksheare

Those Nazis can understand it better if you tell them something in their favorite language.

Sie sind ein dummer Dummkopf, Schmerz im Ansatz, und Ihre Mutter kleidet Sie lustig.

They'll understand that, I'm sure.....


185 posted on 02/14/2005 8:49:34 AM PST by Chef Dajuan (this ain't rocket science, you know. so use your knob! -emeril lagasse)
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To: Hoverbug

186 posted on 02/14/2005 8:51:17 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Dead Corpse
Shouldn't this be an opportunity for us to marginalize the Stormfronters by making sure the Minutemen doesn't turn in to just another whacked out racist cabal? Instead of running away from the whole issue at the first hint of trouble?

That's one of the things Jackelopebreeder (who was recently unfairly banned) has been trying to do. He is concerned that this border "FReep" by the people calling their event the "Minuteman Project" (kind of like the "code names" that the great guys at Protest Warrior use) will go south. He's hoping to weed out the weirdos and keep the personal protection under control. But he got banned as did others. I having nothing to do with the Minuteman Project, I just hate to see people unfairly maligned especially when it comes to people who actually want to do something about the border problem that is destroying my community and hurting our national security.

187 posted on 02/14/2005 8:51:31 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff

They're evil if they allow Stormfront to even link it. There's NO PLACE for racists at all in America.

Minuteman project is as racist as Stormfront. I never heard of you guys complaining of illegal Irish immigrants in NYC. You just complain about Mexicans.

Get lost.


188 posted on 02/14/2005 9:01:58 AM PST by Chef Dajuan (this ain't rocket science, you know. so use your knob! -emeril lagasse)
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To: Hoverbug

To do nothing about illegal immigration is not a plan.

Criticizing those who do something is not a plan.

Conservatives criticize the plan that is not perfect. Come up with something better and to it quick.

I have been to the border aread. I have been to homes where people have been killed so someone can steal their car.

For those of you who say that they are comming here for a better life, I agree and that life is YOURS!

For those of you who say that they are here to do jobs that no american will do. I have one question, at what price?

We are setting up legal economic slavery system in the United States and that will be as wrong as the old fashioned kind of slavery.

This is personal with me. If you are a rich republican that is making a fortune off of illegal aliens then I am your worst nightmare.

I would be willing to shut down every hotel and fast food restaurant in California.

On April 23rd to 28th we go to washington to

Hold Their Feet to The Fire
A National Drive for Immigration Reform
Washington, DC
April 23-28, 2005

Come to Washington, DC and tell Congress in person what you have been telling them over the phone and in letters and faxes. Join Roger Hedgecock, top rated radio talk show host in San Diego, California (KOGO/AM 600), who is sponsoring a national drive for immigration reform on April 23-28, 2005.

Over the last 10 years, Roger has taken large groups of his listeners to Washington, DC to lobby Congress on key issues. This year he is asking radio talk show hosts around the country to join him in a national effort culminating in two days of citizen lobbying on Capitol Hill for immigration reforms. FAIR is a cosponsor of "Hold their Feet to the Fire" drive.

Further details are provided below and more information will be provided in regular upcoming updates. In the meanwhile, the first step is for activists to commit to participating. Please send this alert to your like minded friends, ask them to do the same, and mark your calendars.

Here's how Roger puts it to his listeners:
Are you ready to stop whining about immigration reform?
Are you ready to do something about it?
Will you get off the couch and get to work?

Join us in Washington, DC as we confront Congress and demand:
No Licenses for Illegal Aliens!
No Amnesty for Illegal Aliens!
Secure our Borders!
Crack Down on Employers of Illegal Aliens!
Resume Interior Sweeps to Nab Illegal Aliens!
Stop Providing Government Benefits for Illegal Aliens!
Put Homeland Security on the Front Burner!
The time for complaining is over. The time to rise up is long overdue. The time for action is NOW!!

The tentative schedule of activities is as follows:
Saturday, April 23
Travel to Washington, DC

Sunday, April 24
10:00 a.m.
Group Orientation
organize lobby teams, plan activities for the week, distribute t-shirts, tote bags, campaign buttons and congressional directories. Each team will be assigned a group of lawmakers to visit.
2:00 p.m. – 10:00 p.m.
Tour of Washington, D.C. (with stop for dinner on your own)
After dinner Illuminated Monument tour

Monday, April 25
9:00 a.m.*
Begin lobbying at the Capitol Building!
Please meet with your team members (business attire).
As your schedule permits, take time to visit some of Washington D.C.'s famous sights. (Depending on the number of participants, tours of the Supreme Court, Library of Congress, and the Capitol Building can be arranged at no extra charge for those interested.)
6:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.
The Roger Hedgecock Show Live from Capitol Hill
Roger Hedgecock and other talk show hosts from around the country will broadcast their shows live from Capitol Hill, to fire up listeners at home and spur them to make calls and send messages of support for immigration reform (broadcast location TBA) .

Tuesday, April 26
9:00 a.m.*
Continue lobbying visits at the Capitol
Please meet with your team members (business attire).
6:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.
The Roger Hedgecock Show Live from Capitol Hill
Roger Hedgecock and other talk show hosts from around the country will broadcast their shows live from Capitol Hill, to fire up listeners at home and spur them to make calls and send messages of support for immigration reform (broadcast location TBA) .

Wednesday, April 27
9:00 a.m.*
Continue lobbying visits at the Capitol
Please meet with your team members (business attire).
6:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.
The Roger Hedgecock Show Live from Capitol Hill
Roger Hedgecock and other talk show hosts from around the country will broadcast their shows live from Capitol Hill, to fire up listeners at home and spur them to make calls and send messages of support for immigration reform (broadcast location TBA) .

7:15 p.m. – 11:00 p.m.
Celebration Dinner (cocktail attire)
Join your fellow reformers and guest speakers for a celebratory dinner for all your hard work (location to be announced).

Thursday, April 28
Depart Washington, D.C. (departure times vary)
*Congressman Duncan Hunter, will have his office open to us on the 25th, 26th & 27th. He has graciously invited us to stop by for refreshments. (This will change to Congressmen or women in the participants’ respective areas).

For information on the details or travel packages (rates to be determined), contact sandra49@pacbell.net or call toll free 866-929-0098.


189 posted on 02/14/2005 9:04:40 AM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: Chef Dajuan
They're evil if they allow Stormfront to even link it. There's NO PLACE for racists at all in America. Minuteman project is as racist as Stormfront. I never heard of you guys complaining of illegal Irish immigrants in NYC. You just complain about Mexicans.

Um, Einstein, Minuteman Project has no control over who posts links to them on other Internet forums. You're ASSuming a great deal if you think they even know about the links on SF.

http://www.cnn.com. There. I posted a link to CNN. What can they do about it? Are they now a right-wing conservative organization because a link was posted to their website on Free Republic!?

190 posted on 02/14/2005 9:13:17 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Chef Dajuan
You are new here. Hang around a while. We even had a few go arounds about the whole Russian Bride craze a couple years ago.

People coming across our borders illegally come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and creeds. It ALL has to stop. They are more than welcome to come here through legal channels. The more the merrier. Jump the border though, and you are little better than any other invader.

191 posted on 02/14/2005 9:13:38 AM PST by Dead Corpse (The neighborhood is pretty dead at night, and I'm the one to blame....)
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To: Chef Dajuan
Get lost.

No, why don't YOU get lost. Newb...

192 posted on 02/14/2005 9:13:57 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Jimbaugh

You racist xenophobe bigot!! Bend over and take it like everyone else and quit yer whining!!


193 posted on 02/14/2005 9:15:44 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Chef Dajuan
They're evil if they allow Stormfront to even link it.

Have you ever used the internet before?

194 posted on 02/14/2005 9:19:49 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Dead Corpse

DU often labels FR a neo-Nazi, hate-mongering, white supremist site. Guess beauty is in the eye's of the beholder?


195 posted on 02/14/2005 9:23:12 AM PST by Craig3281
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To: Craig3281

DU thought Kerry was a viable candidate. So much for their judgement...


196 posted on 02/14/2005 9:27:55 AM PST by Dead Corpse (The neighborhood is pretty dead at night, and I'm the one to blame....)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for posting those links. I think back to the tactics of the leftist groups in the 60's and 70's.
Initially they all maintained they were peaceful...unfortunately the mob mentality sets in and attracts those interested in aggressive confrontations. Then the extreme takes over. Not to excuse Kerry for his involvement with the Vietnam Veterans against the war, but think of the infamous Kansas City meeting, which devolved into individuals asking to assassinate sitting Senators. Obviously Kerry with his political ambitions realized he could no longer participate with the kooks.

The Minuteman project is another Vietnam veterans against the war, and it's already attracting participation from the Neo-Nazi's.
I'd like to believe the "WE" are the grown ups in the country at the moment. The left still cannot accept that there are consequences for ones actions. Let's not make the same errors in judgment.

197 posted on 02/14/2005 9:27:58 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya
There are consequences for the political Right not upholding their duties as well. Such as securing our border from illegal invaders.

Trying to equate the two groups is intellectual dishonesty.

198 posted on 02/14/2005 9:30:07 AM PST by Dead Corpse (The neighborhood is pretty dead at night, and I'm the one to blame....)
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To: Spiff
They're meeting together to call attention to the near total lack of security on the border down here since 9/11.

Some years ago, groups of protesters (Jane Fonda, John Kerry, etc.) were not happy with the progress of the war.
They were calling attention to the war so they could get it resolved more quickly.
In so doing they turned public opinion (along with the MSM, and liberal politicians) against the war.
We were actually winning the war but the pressure got so intense that the administration was forced into a very unfortunate solution.

I think we can make our point without attempting to force our own president into a counterproductive solution.
I think Bush has heard our concerns, I think he probably knew about it before we did. I think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt and let him unfold his plan in his way without us taking to the streets and possibly sabotaging him.

199 posted on 02/14/2005 9:30:39 AM PST by oldbrowser (They're not the MSM.........they are the AGENDA MEDIA)
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To: Hoverbug

Look, I'd by lying if I said I have not probed the limits here and gotten a couple of temporary "time out" type bans. But you are attacking and doing nothing constructive. Good bye.


200 posted on 02/14/2005 9:35:08 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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