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Last-ditch effort to save the season
TSN ^ | 13 Feb 05 | TSN.ca Staff

Posted on 02/13/2005 4:35:51 PM PST by CurlyBill

Last-ditch effort to save the season

TSN.ca Staff


2/13/2005

The NHL and NHL Players' Association secretly met with U.S. federal mediators in Washington on Sunday, The Canadian Press has learned.

Sources indicated the meeting with the U.S. Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service was still going on as of 6 p.m. EST.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow were not in the meeting. Bill Daly, the NHL's executive vice-president and chief legal officer, and league outside counsel Bob Batterman were there with NHLPA senior director Ted Saskin and union outside counsel John McCambridge.

It wasn't immediately clear whose idea it was to arrange the meeting with the mediators or when both sides agreed to it. But it definitely flew under the radar, with both sides telling media this weekend that no meetings were in the works.

Last week, Bettman set the end of the weekend as a deadline to get a deal put on paper. Early indications from the meeting in Washington suggested no progress was being made.

The league is expected to cancel the season either Tuesday or Wednesday in New York unless a miracle agreement can be attained in short order. The NHL would become the first major professional league in North America to ever cancel an entire season from start to finish.

The meeting Sunday came on the very day the NHL had been originally slated have this year's all-star game in Atlanta. Instead, it's been cancelled along with 824 of the 1,230 regular-season games. If an agreement is reached, the league has a shortened schedule ready to go that would see teams play 28 regular-season games, playing only within their conference. The playoffs would stay the same.


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Not sure what to make of this.... but I would still love to see a season.
1 posted on 02/13/2005 4:35:53 PM PST by CurlyBill
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To: Hat-Trick

ping!


2 posted on 02/13/2005 4:37:01 PM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: CurlyBill
I do not want a jockey season that starts in late February and ends in late June or July, the whole NHL is terribly messed up.

For a third of the teams, the "regular season" is a glorified preseason. It is better to have you star players rested and uninjured than have the top record and get a piddly advantage of one home game in a five or seven game series.

Even the seedings aren't much of an advantage, as the records don't often correspond to the actual quality of the team. Finally, the late season trades make some of the playoff runs ludicrous, with players sligned to short contracts from non-contending teams just for the purpose of the playoffs.

The solution is radical: Drop the # of teams substantially (16 seems about right)
Reduce the number of playoff teams to 4 (Adams, Campbell, Smythe and Norris champs) Shorten the season to about 40 games, starting in late fall, and ending BEFORE SPRING. Imagine! The best hockey being played in winter!!!! Reduce player contracts to reflect the shorter season. Enjoy increased ratings and revenue.

For more fun, take those discarded teams, and make them the equivalent of independent AAA baseball franchises. With a twist, the last place team in the 4 NHL divisions gets "demoted" to AAA, and the AAA division winners get promoted to the NHL. This would create interest in the new minors AND in the cellar-dwelling NHL franchises!

The druggie like dependency on short-term cash eliminates the possibility of rational thinking.
3 posted on 02/13/2005 5:03:20 PM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: CurlyBill
I would rather they give it a break. Stanley deserves more than an halfhearted run.
4 posted on 02/13/2005 5:04:46 PM PST by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: CurlyBill; SZonian; retrokitten; hollywood; Alberta's Child; 6323cd; Betis70; ColoCdn; airborne; ...
Hockey Ping!

Freep mail or ping me if you want on or off the Hockey Ping List.

5 posted on 02/13/2005 5:14:57 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: CurlyBill
If an agreement is reached, the league has a shortened schedule ready to go that would see teams play 28 regular-season games, playing only within their conference. The playoffs would stay the same.

What kind of ridiculous joke of a sports league could propose a regular season that would be the same length as its postseason?

Only a league run by Gary Bettman.

6 posted on 02/13/2005 5:20:07 PM PST by TheyConvictedOglethorpe
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To: sittnick
The 28-game season being discussed will be a farce. The post-season will actually end up being longer than the season!

I agree with your suggestion to drop the number of teams. NHL hockey was much more fun when you actually were familiar with all the teams and in a smaller league, you get much better rivalries. For example, the Bruins would be playing teams like the Canadians, Rangers and Flyers a bunch of times and there wouldn't be these no-name teams from Tennessee and Florida gumming up the works.

No offense to the South but ice hockey just doesn't work down there.

I also support eliminating the helmet rule (make it optional). For decades, players didn't wear helmets. I'm old enough to remember players like Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Jean Ratelle and Phil Esposito streaking down the ice sans helmets. It was much easier for fans to pick out the players back then. Now you have to constantly check the program to see who they are because they all look the same out there.

I'm sure many pro players would rather play without helmets. Hell, back in the day, even some of the goalies didn't wear helmets - or even facemasks! Now I think that's a little crazy, but other than goalies, there really is no need for players to have to wear helmets. Somehow pro hockey got played for over half a century with nobody getting killed because they didn't wear a helmet. And hockey was a much more vicious sport back in those days - even high-sticking was allowed!

7 posted on 02/13/2005 5:35:58 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Earth is just a prison for intergalactic riff-raff)
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To: CurlyBill; All

I say:

LET THE FANS PLAY!


8 posted on 02/13/2005 5:44:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: SamAdams76

Stevie Yzerman may have a new perspective on the use of helmets.


9 posted on 02/13/2005 6:15:23 PM PST by MichiganCheese (Dean IS representative of his party.)
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Yzerman was already wearing a helmet when that eye-socket injury occurred last spring. The helmet was a non-factor in that injury.


10 posted on 02/13/2005 6:21:32 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Earth is just a prison for intergalactic riff-raff)
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To: SamAdams76

You're correct. He has decided to extend his helmet's protection with a face shield (if he plays again). Logic says he would keep the helmet as well since the face shield is attached.

Man, I miss the NHL. At least I have season tickets to the local AHL team.


11 posted on 02/13/2005 6:26:38 PM PST by MichiganCheese (Dean IS representative of his party.)
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To: sittnick
The solution is radical: Drop the # of teams substantially (16 seems about right) Reduce the number of playoff teams to 4 (Adams, Campbell, Smythe and Norris champs) Shorten the season to about 40 games, starting in late fall, and ending BEFORE SPRING. Imagine! The best hockey being played in winter!!!! Reduce player contracts to reflect the shorter season. Enjoy increased ratings and revenue.

Although I see what you're saying, it's no way to grow the sport.

12 posted on 02/13/2005 6:33:12 PM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: MichiganCheese
Do you think the NHL can pull this season off? I'm thinking the players will need a minimum of three weeks (of training) to start the season. So best case scenario is that the season cannot start until early March.

I must admit that I started missing the Bruins this week now that football season is over. Baseball training camp and the NBA don't interest me at all. So I have nothing to do sports-wise until April.

13 posted on 02/13/2005 6:33:16 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Earth is just a prison for intergalactic riff-raff)
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To: CurlyBill
This is not good news. I miss the game as much as anyone else. However, a 28 game season is a joke. It would do the game more harm than good.

There will not be paring of temas now. The weak franchises will drop once play has resumed. I look for 12 teams to fold in a few years. This ESPN piece is well done.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1981387

14 posted on 02/13/2005 7:00:40 PM PST by davidtalker
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To: SamAdams76

If they pull it off, it won't be much of a season. I agree with you, they will need some time together as a team. The season would be so short, it would almost be a farce.

That being said, I would watch every precious game the Red Wings played as I'm sure you would with the Bruins. The following that Original Six teams enjoy can be found no where else in the league.

Keep your stick on the ice!


15 posted on 02/13/2005 7:12:00 PM PST by MichiganCheese (Dean IS representative of his party.)
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To: CurlyBill

Pitchers and catchers report to Legends Field tomorrow. Let the (pre)games begin!


16 posted on 02/13/2005 8:06:32 PM PST by PzLdr (Liberals are like slugs-they leave a trail of slime wherever they go.)
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To: CurlyBill

The cup should not be awarded with the season so short.

I, for one, will no go to any games this year.


17 posted on 02/14/2005 6:08:06 AM PST by frithguild (Hypocrisy so pervasive they contradict their description - Liberals hate liberty.)
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To: frithguild

I think it's all a moot point right now. They had better get things in order for next season or the league will be in big trouble.


18 posted on 02/14/2005 6:59:29 AM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: PzLdr

Baseball .... ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz..... Boring!!!!


19 posted on 02/14/2005 7:00:07 AM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: CurlyBill

Pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training this week.

What's this "hockey" thing you people are talking about?


20 posted on 02/14/2005 7:05:35 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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