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To: rwfromkansas
called to be saints

We are all called...There is a big difference between 'being' and 'being called to be'...

103 posted on 02/14/2005 10:45:15 AM PST by DBeers
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To: DBeers

1Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God– 2the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, 4and who through the Spirit[a] of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God[b] by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. 5Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith. 6And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

7To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints...

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One should note that Paul first says he was "called to be an apostle." Then there is "called to belong to Jesus Christ."

And, "called to be saints."

He is addressing believers. Paul is an apostle. Those he is addressing belong to Jesus Christ.

THEY ARE SAINTS.

Nice try at ducking around the word "called," however. Nice try saying it is just a hypothetical, something we are to aspire to.

No, in this verse, clearly it means something God ordained to be.

After all, that is what a calling is...


111 posted on 02/14/2005 12:37:18 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: DBeers

Romans 8:27: "And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will."

Apparently, in your mind, only the Canonized have the Spirit interceding for them.

No, all Christians, all saints do according to Scripture.


113 posted on 02/14/2005 12:41:03 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: DBeers

Jude 1:3: "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints."

I guess only the Canonized had the faith entrusted to them.

Come on.


114 posted on 02/14/2005 12:43:07 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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