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Machine Gun Attack - Kingston, New York
Fox News

Posted on 02/13/2005 1:18:18 PM PST by sunnysky

Breaking


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; gonepostal; kingston; postal; shooting; ulster
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To: PilloryHillary

: -)


1,021 posted on 02/13/2005 6:57:11 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: sunnysky

Are they looking for rednecks in a white pickup yet? If these are Muslims the media will have to make a tough choice - do an anti-gun piece or ignore the episode? What agenda will win?


1,022 posted on 02/13/2005 6:59:54 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
suckstart a tennis ball through a screen door...

suckstart a basketball through 30ft of garden hose...

suckstart a B-52...

LOL!

reminds me of a scene from the movie "Baseketball." Jenny McCarthy wearing what looks like silver lipstick, holding a trailer hitch (minus the chrome!)

Mark

1,023 posted on 02/13/2005 7:00:00 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: MarkL
Everyone knows that wearing a flannel shirt doesn't make one a redneck! It can make a woman a lesbian, or for either a male or female, a grunge slacker!

Whatever happened to , it just keeps you warm?

1,024 posted on 02/13/2005 7:00:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: .45MAN; Vigilantcitizen; Squantos; Eaker; Joe Brower; BurbankKarl

Just damn. Buy those cops some modern firearms (see the pic at the replied-to post).

I hope that was just an ankle holster backup gun.


1,025 posted on 02/13/2005 7:04:33 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Osage Orange
No, you are right on target. A surgeon without equipment is better than nothing,.. but EMTs with their equipment and transport... are more appropriate in the field.
1,026 posted on 02/13/2005 7:06:00 PM PST by krinkrayyado (Huguenot in my church)
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To: AD from SpringBay

LoL!!!

The anti-gun piece will have to be sacrificed to save the peace loving muslims embarrassment.


1,027 posted on 02/13/2005 7:07:18 PM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: TexKat
Thanks for posting the AP story. I find their use of terminology odd.

At least two gunmen opened fire Sunday inside a mall in upstate New York, authorities said. The gunmen began shooting inside the Hudson Valley Mall in Kingston, about 52 miles south of Albany. One gunman was taken into police custody. Mayor James Sottile said at least one person was hurt and taken by helicopter to a hospital.

Now why "gunmen"? It is a strange term. Why not "person". The victim is a person. In all other crimes there is an "accused rapist". The person is given the presumption of innocence, the crime is called out. Why not "accused shooter". Is it "gunmen" if there are women in the group? Race of shooters is not reported. Male gender is. Neither race nor gender of the "person", who I might have called the "unarmed victim" is.

1,028 posted on 02/13/2005 7:07:50 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Coleus; Calpernia
Sunday, February 13, 2005 - Page updated at 06:49 p.m

Gunman opens fire at mall in upstate New York; one person wounded
By Michael Hill

The Associated Press

KINGSTON, N.Y. — A lone gunman opened fire with an assault rifle today inside a crowded mall in upstate New York, wounding one person before running out of ammunition and being subdued by employees, authorities said.

The gunman began shooting inside the Hudson Valley Mall shortly after 3 p.m. in Kingston, nearly 90 miles north of New York City.

The 24-year-old gunman went into a Best Buy store and started firing. When he ran out of ammunition, he was captured by mall employees, police said.

Police did not identify the suspect. Capt. Wayne Olson said investigators did not know the exact number of shots fired.

An Army recruiter was shot in the leg but was not the target of the attack, said Lt. Col. Paul Fanning, a National Guard spokesman. The recruiter was evacuated by helicopter to an Albany hospital, where he was listed in critical condition.

Another person was injured in the hand, but police said the injury was not a gunshot wound.

Ulster Town Supervisor Fred Wadnola identified the gunman's weapon as an AK-47 assault rifle.

The mall was evacuated after the shooting, but an unknown number of workers remained inside after police surrounded the building.

"Everyone was running and screaming. Then I heard the shots," witness Heather Craig told Fox News. "People were running over people. Other people were just standing there dumbfounded."

All mall entrances remained blocked off by police Sunday evening.

Michael Bovalino, chief executive officer of the mall's parent company, said crisis counselors would be available for mall employees Monday.

"Our main concern at this point is the well being of those that were injured," Bovalino said in a statement.

Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company


1,029 posted on 02/13/2005 7:07:58 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Strategerist

You're still trashing FNC despite being told by several freepers that CNN, ABC and MSNBC ALL reported the same thing as Fox? Oh, yeah. Your agenda is clear.


1,030 posted on 02/13/2005 7:09:31 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: archy

OK! Wow, the initial reports were all wrong. SORRY. No three gunman, one guy. Not a pistol, an AK. Odd.


1,031 posted on 02/13/2005 7:13:30 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Peach

Oh, everyone else isn't much better. But Fox is the worst at breaking stories. They'll hype stuff that is uncertain more.


1,032 posted on 02/13/2005 7:15:23 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: F.J. Mitchell
who shot up a Mall full of people with a fully automatic muzzle loader antique

This reminds me of something that happened to me in college. At the time, I was the photo editor of the school newspaper (SUNY @ Stony Brook, "The Statesman"), and one night we got a call that the university police had arrested a man because he had a handgun and high explosives! Well, I thought that this was interesting, and after the reporter-ette had finished the telephone interview with the UPD spokesman, I thought that I'd chat with her and see what was up...

As she was writing the story, I saw that she was referring to a "44 caliber handgun, stolen from the Navy, and a container of high explosive called 'Pyrodex!'" I asked her to read back her notes, and she said that she was told he was apprehended with a complete "44 caliber Naval Revolver kit, complete with the high explosives."

I said that she had to be kidding, and to put a hold on the story... It turns out that the student that was being held was found to have one of those black powder revolver kits that you assemble (and it was still sealed, in the box), as well as some percussion caps and a cannister of pyrodex, a synthetic black powder. He had bought it as a present for his father, who was an antique firearms collector.

The way she was writing the story, he was a mad terrorist out to shoot up the student union, then blow it up. Of course, it was really stupid to bring that sort of stuff onto a university campus in NY in 1986, but still, this was a bit over the top.

Mark

1,033 posted on 02/13/2005 7:17:00 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Strategerist

I'll have to disagree.

For instance, CNN was very late reporting the OIF scandal. Never did report the Eason Jordan scandal until it was over. Did CNN ever give five seconds to the Swift Boat vets? CNN is typically waaaaay behind in breaking news. Sure FNC gets it wrong sometimes, but at least they are there and trying to get the news. Considering what all the other networks did this evening, they didn't do half bad.


1,034 posted on 02/13/2005 7:17:33 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Vicki
What you said makes sense. These guys were not robbers and it doesn't seem to be a gang retaliation since they randomly shot people.

Maybe. The most seriously wounded victim has been described in AP accounts as an Army recruiter.

1,035 posted on 02/13/2005 7:18:21 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Darksheare
Road Killed Beeber Association

Would those be stunned or un-stunned beebers?

Mark

1,036 posted on 02/13/2005 7:18:39 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: datura

whew! The drugs are kicking in..datura and absinthe?? Did you ever, perchance, read Carlos Castenedo?


1,037 posted on 02/13/2005 7:19:37 PM PST by scoastie
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To: Peach

Fox has a serious problem with 1) overfocus on celeb and tabloid news and 2) really blundering on breaking news stories.....heck, going all the way back to the SCOTUS Florida election decision when they said Bush had lost.

I'm certainly not the only person with a big problem with Fox on here; there have been plenty of other threads with people with complaints confronting the "All conservatives must worship Fox News" Thought Police.


1,038 posted on 02/13/2005 7:20:11 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: CindyDawg
Whatever happened to , it just keeps you warm?

Or makes really great PJs! And sheets!

Mark

1,039 posted on 02/13/2005 7:24:34 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: archy

shot in the leg, and in critical condition? Must have been a femur shot and hit an artery....


1,040 posted on 02/13/2005 7:24:48 PM PST by scoastie
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