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To: papertyger
My children know that they'll always find love on my doorstep. I might not always agree with them, I might not approve, but I'll always love them.

So for you, love is de facto acceptance?

Did I not clearly say above that I might not always agree with my children, or approve of their actions? I'm stuck wondering what the hell you mean by acceptance.

94 posted on 02/13/2005 12:29:16 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas
I'm stuck wondering what the hell you mean by acceptance.

It's very simple. If I tell you the price of a hot dog is five hundred dollars, it doesn't matter if it's hiway robbery, it will take your last dime, you're starving... you can bitch, moan, and complain but if you take the hot dog, you have accepted my price.

Peter had very compelling reasons, but according to the dictates of Keyes faith, he was still responsible for the triple denial of Christ. Should Keyes seek to dilute his own understanding and conviction in similar circumstances?

As for you qualifiers (don't agree or approve), they are meaningless in the sense that they make no substantive difference from your full agreement with your daughter (while retaining your own personal preferences). If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it is disingenuous to call it anything other than a duck.

101 posted on 02/13/2005 1:32:52 PM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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