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CA: Feds picking California's pockets?
LA Daily News ^ | 2/11/05 | Lisa Friedman

Posted on 02/12/2005 7:56:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 02/12/2005 7:56:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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According to the study, California ranked 45th out of the 50 states, plus the District of Columbia.

New Jersey fared the worst, receiving 58 cents back on the dollar, while New Mexico gets $2 in return for every dollar paid to the feds.


2 posted on 02/12/2005 7:59:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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But, but, but, some politicians are calling the Federal Budget "austere." I can't imagine for a moment that California would be "shortchanged."


3 posted on 02/12/2005 8:00:36 PM PST by Enterprise ("Dance with the Devil by the Pale Moonlight" - Islam compels you!)
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To: NormsRevenge
90% of statistics are lies.

Remove the SS money from this picture to remove the affect of 'snowbirds' moving to inexpensive places and you get a more realistic picture (the fact that SS is a transfer tax from the young and relatively poor to the old and rich is another question entirely).

CA would still be a doner, but the statistics would be less impressive.

4 posted on 02/12/2005 8:06:49 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: NormsRevenge

But I thought Jane Fonda and her friends love to pay hight tax rates.


5 posted on 02/12/2005 8:07:45 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: NormsRevenge

the fed .gov is picking everyone's pockets.


6 posted on 02/12/2005 8:09:32 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: NormsRevenge
We have all the numbers, we have the chairs of the relevant committees and we have the governor. If that's not enough to get the job done, then the GOP is going to have some explaining to do," Schiff said.

Surely this scumbag, Schiff, realizes that California has voted against Bush twice?
And that California keeps sending a couple of scumbag Senators back to Washington to vote against GOP initiatives and berate Bush's nominees? Whatever money gets sent back to California better stay in Republican districts....

7 posted on 02/12/2005 8:13:20 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dinsdale
90% of statistics are lies.

90% of statistics posted on the 'net are simply made up.

8 posted on 02/12/2005 8:16:18 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (On this day was our emancipator born.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Eighty to ninety percent of what the feds spend money on is unconstitutional. Entitlement programs like welfare are the biggest fraud perpetrated on the citizens of every state since there is no authority for such expenditures or collection of taxes for such expenditures in the U.S. Constitution. Anyone who claims otherwise has never studied what the founders said about "benevolence" and the role of the federal government.
9 posted on 02/12/2005 8:19:14 PM PST by StrictConstructionist
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Yeah, I thought the "Progressives" would LOVE this, wouldn't they? After all, Washington DC is just "taxing the rich" as far as states are concerned, & California is a rich state, not a poor state like New Mexico or Mississippi.

The feds are doing just what that bank robber said: they are going "to where the money is". Sounds only fair, doesn't it?


10 posted on 02/12/2005 8:21:52 PM PST by libertyman
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To: StrictConstructionist

They want to keep more of their money? Quit sending it to Washington DC and quit electing creatures that like to raise taxes.


11 posted on 02/12/2005 8:22:09 PM PST by boofus
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To: StrictConstructionist

They ripped up the constitution a long time and only use the parts they like . Rights are an illusion.


12 posted on 02/12/2005 8:26:15 PM PST by John Lenin
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AMEN TO THAT!!!! Rarely do I hear my other FReepers mention this fact as succinctly as you did...but then again, many of these same unconstitutional federal programs go to help them out personally (or their state or Congressional District), so that is why this issue is swept under the rug like it is.

Few people here have the guts to call it like it is, so I appreciate you for pointing this out.


13 posted on 02/12/2005 8:27:33 PM PST by libertyman
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Same here. I thought that they wanted the rich to may more of a percentage than they have under Bush. Since the median price of a home in Claifornia is $465,540 and the median price of a home in New Mexico is $129,400 and in Mississippi $95,600, California is clearly the richer state by far. Why shouldn't they pay more?


14 posted on 02/12/2005 8:30:51 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dinsdale
90% of statistics are lies.

Remove the SS money from this picture to remove the affect of 'snowbirds' moving to inexpensive places and you get a more realistic picture (the fact that SS is a transfer tax from the young and relatively poor to the old and rich is another question entirely).

Good of you to catch the SS angle. Another thing that I bet is wrong with this study is that it is per capita and does not take into consideration the "overhead" of the Federal government, which is going to fall more on less populated states (more interstates and military bases per capita). Remove that, an I am not at all sure that California is a "doner" state.

15 posted on 02/12/2005 8:36:01 PM PST by marktwain
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To: NormsRevenge

Only in someone's dreams would states get back all the money that they send to Washington. What do you think pays for all the DC bureaucrats and those fancy buildings they work in? It has to be skimmed off from the money they get. The states only get back what's left. Which is yet another good argument for cutting taxes and letting the citizens of the states keep the money in the first place. If CA wants 100% of its tax dollars to go to CA purposes, don't send it thru DC, tax it here (where it's also a lot more convenient for me to wrap my hands around a local politician's neck for raising my taxes).


16 posted on 02/12/2005 8:43:32 PM PST by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: NormsRevenge

I looked through 25 lists of think tanks based in and around washington and none List anything called the California institute. is this a made up study to inflame the mistreated califas.


17 posted on 02/12/2005 8:45:18 PM PST by bdfromlv (leavenworth hard time)
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To: NormsRevenge

If every state got back a dollar for every dollar it sent to Washington for taxes, what would be the point of taxes (which is my point).


18 posted on 02/12/2005 8:54:47 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Gas?)
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To: John Jorsett
Exactly. You don't pass money through a governments hands and expect to get it all back.

Eliminate "revenue sharing" !!

19 posted on 02/12/2005 8:55:37 PM PST by marktwain
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To: NormsRevenge

So what's the real purpose of the study anyway? To provide lazy CA legislators and a RINO Govenor an excuse not to control spending or tackle the issues. So they go to Washington with hat in hand, letting all the problems that plague CA mushroom.


20 posted on 02/12/2005 9:02:04 PM PST by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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