Posted on 02/12/2005 7:41:39 PM PST by Lorianne
No woman has ever made herself pregnant.
I would imagine that women today consent to sex the same way one consents to violence and nudity on TV and in the theater. Or pornography on the newsstands. Or gambling in one's state, be it the state lottery or "riverboat" casinos. Or strip clubs and adult bookstores. Or profanity at sporting events.
One goes with the flow.
"When you consent to violence and pornography, do you mean that you "go with the flow" and watch violent TV and pornography, even though you don't like it?"
I'm saying that those who are opposed to scenes of violence and sex in movies and on TV and do nothing about it when exposed to it are going with the flow. It's irrelevant whether they "like" it or not.
So you're saying that the women today who consent to sex like it? Because they consented?
Well, if they just sit there and watch scenes of violence and sex, I doubt their opposition. Perhaps they like watching violence and sex, but just oppose it verbally in other social settings, going with the flow to get other benefits.
So you're saying that the women today who consent to sex like it? Because they consented?
I imagine that would vary from woman to woman. Some might love their man and lie about their enjoyment to please him. Some married women might feign enjoyment of sex in trade for the material benefits of marriage, or the stability of a provider to raise their children with.
If women consent to sex, i assume they get some benefit, or they wouldn't consent.
Why would you think that?
If I went to see the movie Birth and was appalled at the scene portraying Nicole Kidman and a 10-year-old boy naked in a bathtub together, you're saying that my viewing of the movie is my acceptance of that particular scene? Are you saying that a person needs to boycott the whole movie or completely turn off the TV if there is one scene they object to?
Why should I be denied the viewing of an otherwise enjoyable movie because one scene portrays euthanasia, or abortion, or pedophilia, or homosexuality, in a positive manner? According to you, if I see such a movie I don't oppose the act portrayed.
My point is that, today, people will view these scenes and do nothing about it. They'll simply accept this intrusion rather than speak out. This has led us to where we are today.
They could be consenting because of peer presssure. Something most women didn't do 50 years ago
And the more this happens the more pressure. The less it happens, the less pressure.
It seems like the minimum display of opposition to me, with a theater movie. With a TV channel - change it. You could go further and write letters, so the companies would know of your objection.
Why should I be denied the viewing of an otherwise enjoyable movie because one scene portrays euthanasia, or abortion, or pedophilia, or homosexuality, in a positive manner?
All kinds of movies might get made that won't get made, movies you might have liked. Why should you get denied the viewing of them? I don't have the answer to that.
According to you, if I see such a movie I don't oppose the act portrayed.
Not the act, but the portrayal of same. You don't show any detectable offense at the time, since you don't at least get up and leave. You could even let the manager know on your way out. And if you know in advance the movie has offensive material and still buy a ticket, it looks like an endorsement to me.
My point is that, today, people will view these scenes and do nothing about it. They'll simply accept this intrusion rather than speak out. This has led us to where we are today.
Possibly, but unless they speak up or display some resistance at the time, we don't know that the viewers feel any intrusion at all.
How clever of you. And your point is? So it's mens' fault that American women have made the choice to abort their babies nearly 50 million times since 1972?
No, it's not mens' fault. Men have absolutely no say whatever when it comes to abortion. The media and politicians have shaped the issue that way for 30 years. It's a "woman's choice" or "a woman can do whatever she wants with HER body" and so on.
So, when it comes to abortion, no man has ever had an abortion, however, woman in America have had abortions nearly 50 million times.
In a word, yes.
Often young punks who want to avoid lifetime committment and responsibility for the culmination of their lust and seduction games prefer abortion.
Liberal men save money by promoting abortions.
Conservative men never ever put their organs in a woman who is not their willing wife and make her pregnant, setting up an abortion. It just could not happen because a conservative man cannot be a scoundrel with blood on his hands.
How are they taxed? By cubic inch displacement?
Nothing has cheapened womanhood more than "the sexual revolution".
But, of course, we're talking about Germany. Say something like this over there and they'd look at you like flying monkeys are shooting out of your pants.
Sorry, but you are wrong. As I said before, no man, EVER, has had had an abortion. It simply has never happened. Humans have free will and make their own decisions. Women have decided to abort 50 million of their babies the past 30 years. In contrast, how many pregnant men have had abortions? Zero.
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