Posted on 02/12/2005 7:41:39 PM PST by Lorianne
The part about unemployed German women being offered work in brothels is false, despite being published in Daily Telegraph (UK) and a few other major newspapers. Here is the rebuttal:
http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp
Off topic but this,along with the 10% unemployment in France,yet the libs think that we need to be listening to them on any issue.
Even more glaring when comparing population numbers along with the effects of 9/11.
Story ain't true. Try again.
If found the Snopes rebuttal to be largely unconvincing. There is no support for the implicit assumption that the Telegraph, etc. used other German newspapers as their sources - in fact, by citing names of women affected that the Telegraph did not, there's evidence that they did their own independent research into the matter. When faced with two contrary newspaper accounts, Snopes resolves the issue by arbitrarily picking the version of the German newspapers, and the last one cited (the biggest "gotcha") doesn't even provide a link to any source.
We don't even know the -date- of that last German newspaper article, and the date here is a big deal. Why? Because according to the Telegraph, prior to the passing of the legislation, there was indeed a plan to put in a morality exemption specifically to avoid the issue, but then they did away with it on the premise that it'd be too difficult to legally differentiate a bar from a brothel or something to that effect. Articles written about the matter prior to that exception being removed could very well legitimately claim that an exception exists, not knowing that the exception would be removed later on.
Snopes went too far as to claim the status of the story as "False". "Disputed" is about as far as they have a right to take it.
Qwinn
The author never said that women were being forced to be prostitutes. She said "it was the next step."
And the author is dead right on every issue. Great article.
ACK! Mistake in my response.
When I said: "in fact, by citing names of women affected that the Telegraph did not, there's evidence that they did their own independent research into the matter."
I should have said:
"in fact, by citing names of women affected that the [German Newspapers] did not, there's evidence that they [the Telegraph] did their own independent research into the matter."
Qwinn
But such "freedom" would be largely unnecessary if women knew how badly they were being used.
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It is called freedom on speech, which is what allows this author to publish her opinion as well.
As American women now have about 1.7 children over their lifespan instead of 6 or 8, it is hard to dispute that women now have more control over their bodies than they used to. One can debate whether this is good or bad, I suppose, but I think that few will wish to go back to the large families that were common 50 years ago.
My German pal who thinks Americans are savages and only Eurotwits understand how to live reports that her buddy in Berlin, age 50, is starting his third year on unemployment, traveling all over the world on trips his benefit payments cover, living the high life, and in no danger of ever being required to go back to work.
Now comes the rising unemployment level in Germany and the slumping economy. I guess we'll be seeing thousands of unemployed Germans vacationing at the Laguna Beach Ritz Hotel. Until their bubble bursts.
No point discussing with any German the possibility that their country's economic ruin is fueled by the "Versaille-like" (an Ann Coulter word) pensions and benefits all German workers receive from the government. And btw, her friend worked as a waiter, he's healthy, strong, good-looking, personable and gay. He could go back to work anywhere at any time. But he claims not to be able to find work and the German authorities buy it. Hah!
Probably cheaper for him in the long run, and should cut down on the sexual harassment lawsuits.
What we call a two-fer.
But... Do you realize how hard it is to get and keep a *Good* secretary!?!
I'm tired of seeing that so-called statistic. No man has ever had an abortion.
How so? Don't most women who engage in non-marital sex today consent to the act?.
It's no fun if she's not your secretary anymore.
I would imagine that women today consent to sex the same way you consent to violence and nudity on TV and in the theater. Or pornography on the newsstands. Or gambling in your state, be it the state lottery or "riverboat" casinos. Or strip clubs and adult bookstores. Or profanity at sporting events.
You go with the flow.
The author's point is that, at one time, we as a society had moral standards and wouldn't tolerate 1% of the above. Made it easier for women to say no.
Its a bummer.
You go with the flow.
The author's point is that, at one time, we as a society had moral standards and wouldn't tolerate 1% of the above. Made it easier for women to say no.
I assume you made the above comments referring to yourself, since you don't know me.
When you consent to violence and pornography, do you mean that you "go with the flow" and watch violent TV and pornography, even though you don't like it?
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